Some servers don't seem to have common sense these days. Sure there are many fantastic servers out there, but some just are either too lazy or just don't get what earning a tip means. Some obvious mistakes sometimes happen. A wrong entree from the same server that took the order is brought to the customer. Think about that. Doesn't that show how little the server is trying to please the customer? My husband got handed a shrimp entree instead of an augratin entree. I got handed quesadillas instead of bbq chicken nachos. I mean, this is ridiculous that a server can't REREAD the order they wrote down BEFORE they hand it to the customer. I feel a lot of times it's about laziness. It's too much trouble to reread that order it seems. I've also gotten many of times missing condiments I specifically ordered or condiments that were supposed to come with an item that was listed on the menu. That's pretty bad when a server doesn't NOTICE things are missing. It's truly the lack of caring and effort. When a wrong entree is brought out by the same server that wrote down the order truly makes me not understand why they didn't notice something so VERY OBVIOUS. It's just like DUH, but some of these servers today don't seem to be all there. I know if you rush, you may hand the wrong thing to someone, but to not make sure it's even the correct item is just plain STUPID. These servers are just doing what I call "serve-n-run." They aren't double checking the cook's work or even their own. The bbq chicken nacho incident happened due to the SERVER pressing a wrong button. The augratin incident was the server handing a bunch of entrees for our table and other tables. He told us he grabbed the wrong one. See, that server truly just "served and ran." Not LOOKING at what you are handing someone is just STUPID. That also goes for checks. We've also had a wrong check handed to us for another table. Again, another server not even paying attention to what he was doing. I call those types of servers "Print-n-run." Printed the ticket and ran is what he did.
These are the steps on how to be a good server in a restaurant:
1. Try to greet your table within 3-5 minutes. Try not to end up taking 8-10 minutes to greet a table, because that's when customers start to get irritated. If you do take longer than 5 minutes, do apologize.
2. Make sure customers have utensils. I can't count the times I've either had to get up to get my own utensils or had to asks my server for some. I've also have seen other customers and even my husband was brought food(which I didn't order any food that time) without any utensils. What kind of service is that, you know? Treat others as you would want to be treated. Would you want to be served food without anything to eat with or even a napkin?
3. Bring extra napkins always. MOST people, especially kids or if a person orders messy foods such as ribs, will more than likely need extra napkins.
4. Do ANY up selling BEFORE the customer orders, NOT AFTER the customer just placed their order. A couple of times I ordered a specific margarita they had on the menus at 2 different restaurants and those servers decided to try to sell me a different margarita AFTER I told them already what I actually wanted. That not only wasted their time, but irritated me. I feel how dare they try to CHANGE MY MIND! It's MY decision, NOT THEIRS! If the server wants to up sell me something, it's much nicer to do it BEFORE I've made up my mind, NOT AFTER. I am NOT going to change my order because they want to sell me something more expensive.
5. Never bring ANY FOOD OR DRINKS to the table without knowing if the customer wants it, even if it's just water. Also, the server should ask if the customer wants lemon with their water. Some people may not want a slice of lemon. The server should ask or let the customer ask if they want a refill or anything for that matter. Some people like automatic refills, but I feel that a server can waste time at times getting things that the server isn't 100% sure that the customer actually wants a refill. I've declined refills before at times as well as changed the soft drinks I have ordered even. I am glad when servers ASK me instead of bringing something to the table that I didn’t order. I don't care if it's free bread or chips & salsa, NOTHING should be ordered for the customer and that even includes a glass of water. The customer is the person that is ordering, NOT the server. There’s no reason for a server to order for their customers unless the customer tells them to. Some things to consider like maybe they don't want water or maybe they don't want free bread, because they are on a diet.
6. Bring drinks that aren't from the bar out first if there are any. For instance, if a customer at the table orders a drink from the bar and everyone else at the table orders soft drinks or tea or water, don't make everyone at the table suffer by waiting until the drink from the bar is ready.
7. Always give straws with drinks that normally get straws such as soft drinks or tea. If the customer doesn't use it, it's at least avaiable if they do.
8. Don't make small talk or jokes unless you have the time. MOST people in general DON'T want chit-chat in their dining experience. A good server doesn't usually have TIME to WASTE like that. It's also INCONSIDERATE to customers that are WAITING for things they have asked for to play around. Servers, think about if you were the customer, would you want to wait longer for what you've asked for so your server could chit-chat?
9. When customers are placing their order, WRITE their order down. Write down EVERY detail and repeat the order to the customer. Make sure you understand every detail like if they said "no tomatoes" and you may have thought they said "only tomatoes."
10. Don't EVER come back to the table after you have left to ask the customer to repeat their order! That's an interuption that's truly not necessary. Now if they are out of something or there's a problem with what someone ordered, that's completely different. I am talking about servers who don't write down orders or servers who didn't fully write down the order or get the entire order written correctly the FIRST TIME AROUND as they should have. For instance, I ordered a margarita with salt one time and the waiter came back to my table to ask if I wanted salt. He should have gotten it correct the FIRST time around. I also had a waitress one time ask "Did you say mudslide or a white russian?" I ordered a white russian, not a mudslide. My point is, points off the tip when I have to be interrupted for a server not getting all the details right the FIRST TIME AROUND. I understand if I have to repeat my order while they are intially taking my order, but to come to ask me AFTER they have already left the table is just not good service. As I said before, if they are out of something or there's no way to make a certain thing the way the customer wants it, that's understandable to have to come back to the table, but don't just come back to the table because you didn't get the ALL the details the first time around.
11. Know the menu. If I ask what comes in a side salad because of the fact that usually for some reason, a lot of menus don't list what comes in, don't tell me you don't know or need to ask someone UNLESS it is like your first day or something.
12. When a customer places their order, if they aren't asking for your help, DON'T try to help them, meaning, don't put your opinion about what you think they want to order. I already had 2 servers tell me "You know it's not a big salad" when I ordered 4 sides of ranch for a side salad. What happened was, I also was ordering other items that I wanted to dip the ranch in as well, so I just decided to order all the ranch at once not to make it confusing. I find that to be RUDE to tell someone that. It's not my server's business to tell me what their opinion is about "HOW MUCH" I am ordering. I ended up having to waste my time telling one server that I was going to use it also for the cheese sticks I ordered and the other server I decided to make it simple by telling that server I just like a lot of ranch so I wouldn't waste my own time.
13. Don't be NOSY. I had a server at Denny's ask "What do you need all of that for" when I ordered several condiments. I was nice and told her what all the condiments were for not to be rude, but I really felt that was NONE of her business. It was VERY RUDE to ask that in my opinion. It also made her look lazy by acting as if she wouldn't have wanted to bring all of that by asking me such a question.
14. Don't make comments about what a person orders. I had a waiter one time make fun of me by saying "You want some more ranch" just because I asked for a lot of ranch after we had already paid and were getting ready to get up from the table to leave as he was bussing another table. That's just MEAN. Keep your comments to yourself. It won't help your tip any and I can report that to your manager if you are rude to me.
15. NEVER "ASSUME" ANYTHING, EVER! For example: My husband and I ordered 2 appetizers as well as 2 entrees at a restaurant. I didn't want what he wanted and he didn't want what I wanted, so that's why we ordered 2. We figured we could take the food home if we had too much. The waiter ASSUMED I wanted the appetizer with my meal. For starters, I NEVER ONCE said that. Also, I should assume that since the menu states it's an appetizer, that I would get it as an appetizer unless I state otherwise. We were waiting quite a while when the waiter came around and we asked where my chili cheese fries were. Our waiter replied "I thought you wanted it with your meal." I told him "I never said that." I was SOME PISSED that he "ASSUMED" we were going to "share" the first appetizer. Anyway, I received it 2 minutes literally before our entrees came out.
I also recently had a waiter assume my husband and I were going to share an appetizer. I didn't want the appetizer he wanted, but I did want a salad added to my entree. The appetizer came out, still no salad. I asked the person that ran the food about the salad, which he replied that I would have had to tell my server I wanted it as an appetizer. I think that's so ridiculous. The side salad needs no cooking, so I thought I'd get it like I normally always did within 5 minutes or so after I ordered my entree. I thought at the very least, I would have gotten it along with my husband's appetizer, which I received it way after he was almost finished it. I feel the SERVER is the one at fault here, NOT ME. I SHOULDN'T have to tell him I want my salad at the normal time it comes out if someone else at the table wouldn't have ordered an appetizer. That's ridiculous. I don't understand why he couldn't have ASKED me instead of ASSUMING I would have wanted it after the appetizer came out. I would have wanted it BEFORE the appetizer came out. I would think MOST people want things as quickly as possible for the most part(not talking about getting appetizers and entrees at the same time, because that's different). I am talking about the first course of the meal should be the fastest thing that can come out. I guess they do this, because they figure they'll bring out the salad after the appetizer incase if the person is still eating the salad when the appetizer arrives. I still feel the SERVER is at fault for assuming I wanted to share my husband's appetizer with him.
16. If a customer specially requests for something, DON'T LIE TO THEM. I've asked a waitress one time if she could bring the condiments I ordered before the meal came out. My food arrived just as I thought from another server without the condiments I ordered. She LIED to me, so her tip was 10%. I was trying to prevent the situation from happening, because I know usually when someone else takes the food to my table, I usually don't get my condiments as I've ordered them.
17. If someone wants a 2 for 1 drink "ONE at a time" respect that and only bring out one at a time. Also, ASK if the customer would like the drinks one at a time, which you might be surpised they MIGHT just want it one at a time due to ice making the drink watered down or maybe they might not want the second one.
18. Immediately put the order into the computer RIGHT AFTER you take the order unless there are food or drink orders that were ordered before the customers that you just got the order from that are ready, then obviously, bring those customers their food and/or drinks they ordered first, then put the order into the computer.
19. Servers should bring ALL condiments BEFORE the food is arrived. There is NEVER a reason to trust another server that ends up bringing out the food. If you want a good tip, make sure what that the things that are truly IN YOUR CONTROL will be correct at the very least. I have had 5 servers VOLUNTEER(meaning I didn't ask them to do that) to bring my condiments BEFORE my meal arrived whether or not they actually took my food to me. If someone orders a side of ranch, there's NO REAL REASON to wait all the way until the food is ready to bring it out which is usually around 25mins or so, when ranch doesn't need ANY cooking. Same thing with other condiments like mayo or mustard.
20. Make sure you are bringing enough of what the customer has asked for. My husband asked for ketchup and the waitress brought out an almost empty bottle, not enough for him to even get much out. Also, if someone asks for a "SIDE" of something, bring a "FULL" side, NOT "a HALF side." It's ridiculous that now I am having to tell my server, "Fill it all the way." I think that's just ridiculous. If I ask for a "side", I want a FULL SIDE. Especially if I asks for 2 sides of mayo, don't bring me 2 "half-sides" of mayo, because then it's like only having ONE side of mayo, so then you have to make another trip to get another side of mayo as I specifically ordered it. It's not like the server can't SEE that it's not full. Bring customers enough condiments so you WON'T have to make extra trips. Do you honestly care about the pennies it cost the restaurant to maybe give too much or do you care about your tips? I think a customer would rather have more than enough, than not enough, wouldn't you?
21. When the food is ready, if the same server takes the food to the customer that took the order, that server should be comparing the plate of food with the written order to see obvious mistakes such as a wrong side dish, a wrong entree, missing things, or anything that's obvious like a grilled chicken dish that's supposed to have swiss cheese(yellow) has bright orange cheddar cheese.
22. Make sure when you bring out someone's food that the item has the condiments that are listed on the menu unless told by the customer that they didn't want the condiments that come with the meal. I have had servers assume just because I ordered a side of ranch, I didn't want the marinara as well with cheese sticks. I don't get that, because they didn't even consider that since usually appetizers are shared, that just maybe the other person at the table might like the sauce that COMES with the item and the other person wants the other sauce. We both happen to like both sauces and dip them in both.
Also, I've had times when the condiments that were supposed to come with the food according to the MENU, weren't on the plate, meaning the server didn't verify the food they were taking to me with the menu. Like at Denny's, my husband ordered cheese fries as his appetizer and the ranch that was listed it came with and even had a picture of it, wasn't on the plate from our server when it arrived. I feel, how STUPID is it not to even realize something is MISSING and still take it to the customer like that considering they have it in a PICTURE as well as listed in the menu description. I feel if you don't know the menu, at least take a menu and verify the food BEFORE taking it to the customer.
23. If you run someone else's food and get a request for something such as a refill, please tell their server or even go get the refill. I have had some good and bad luck when I've done this. If my server is not around and if I want a refill, I will ask whomever comes to the table, considering they ARE a "SOME PART" of MY service. Sometimes those other servers worked as a TEAM by actually getting the refill for me, one time a server lied to me, and another one said something about that my server will get it, which she DIDN'T relay the message. The point of this one, WORK AS A TEAM, because it will come back to you. If you help out this other customer's table you don't have, but then another server helps you out with a customer's table you DO have, it truly all works out. No one seems to want to work as a team anymore these days. The people that do, are hard to find.
Also if there is a mistake that can be caught by this other server such as a missing item or wrong food, this other server should be the one to fix the situation to make it right, NOT make the customer wait longer to get our server to fix it. I don't get why MY server usually is the one that gets the forgotten condiments when another server brings out my food without the condiments I ordered. I feel WHY have another server run the food if they aren't going to verify the ticket with the plate of food? It's useless to have a food runner system if the other server doesn't verify what they are taking to the table is correct even. I am ONLY talking about things that are obvious that are wrong. Sure my server could be at fault for not putting in the order correctly to begin with, but I am willing to bet more than likely, it's the other server that's too lazy to read the ticket.
24. Check back with your customers once ANY food has arrived if someone else ran your food, because they may have a mistake that was not noticed at the time the food was ran, so no one was told about the mistake. It's important to check back with your customers to make sure the customers are happy with their food. It's not just mistakes that could be a problem, it could also be the food is cold or some type of other problem. If you don't check back with your customers, you won't know if something is wrong or not. Also, ask if they need anything. They might need something they didn't think of such as A-1 steak sauce or a refill.
25. If a mistake is made of any kind, apologize. I can't count HOW MANY TIMES I NEVER get an apology. I am not mean, I just tell them "I ordered such-n-such. At the VERY LEAST, say you are sorry. It's the RIGHT THING to do. It may even boost your tip such as when I have had apologies, that I tipped higher all because they were NICE about it.
26. If a mistake is made that's major such as a wrong entree or an overcharge, have the decency to TELL YOUR MANAGER! I can't count the times I didn't get a visit from a manager when MAJOR mess ups have happened. Also, if it's YOU who made the mess up, YOU try to make-up for it by asking the manager if he or she could comp something. Also, a major mess up should come with a PROFUSE apology such as "I am SO sorry." Not just a lousy "sorry" when the mistake is huge.
27. If you are server running someone else's food and there's a mistake of some sort, APOLOGIZE, even if it's might not be "YOUR" fault. Customers do usually want to hear an apology when something goes wrong. It IS the NICE thing to do.
28. Don't EVER ARGUE with a customer, even if you know they are wrong. Let the MANAGER handle it. Like if they claim they ordered a certain item and that is truly what they didn't order, arguing will not do anyone any good. Your tip will suffer more than likely. Just take the food back and tell the manager what happened. What is the point of fighting what a customer that thinks they are always right? You will NEVER get through to them, so WHY BOTHER wasting time?
29. Don't take things off the table without making sure the customer is truly finished with the item. I, one time, put a side of remoulade sauce on the side of the table that had the salt shakers at the booth we were sitting at. The waitress for some weird reason didn't get the hint I still wanted it considering I didn't put it at the end other end of the table. She should have just asked me instead of just grabbing it, which I told her I still wanted it. Another time I was still drinking a margarita and the waiter kept trying to take my glass before I was finished with it. That's just irritating. NEVER take something off the table if it's not finished with unless you have permission to do so!
30. If you see my glass almost empty, it would be nice if you offered me a refill instead of just picking up appetizer dishes for instance. I shouldn't have to ask for a refill if you are at the table and see my glass almost empty, I may want more drink possibly. Especially if I haven't received my entree yet. When I see a server not be OBSERVANT like that, it just boggles my mind that they couldn't ask me and I ended up having to ask them as they were ready to walk off with the dishes.
31. Wait until everyone is finished to ask about a dessert. If everyone isn't finished eating their entrees yet, just ask if they need anything. I find it rude in the middle of me eating my entree, for a server to ask about a dessert, because it makes me feel rushed.
32. If you ask the customer if they want something and they say "NO", DO NOT try to change their mind. I can't tell you how aggrevating it is to have to almost argue with the server to get them to understand I don't want a dessert this time or whatever it is. If they say "NO", they MEAN IT!
33. Make sure there are NO overcharges or undercharges on the check and that it is indeed THAT customer's check. I have had prices that didn't match the menu. I have also had a server charge me for a salad without an entree, even though I got an entree. So make sure you press the correct button. My husband and I have had our credit cards rung up on the wrong table. We have been given the wrong check before. We have had extra items as well as missing items on the check. I also had substituted a cheddar cheese on a sandwich that came with swiss cheese, but was charged extra as if I was adding cheese to the sandwich. That time I also didn't get charged for a margarita that was almost $7. So not only did I have an overcharge, but also an undercharge in the same check. That just shows how some servers don't look over their work.
34. NEVER, EVER, bring the check without either being asked or asking. I have ordered a mixed drink AFTER a dessert at times. I truly HATE when servers bring the check along with the dessert as if they can read my mind or something. It's NOT their call to make if I am ready for the check or not, it's MINE. You NEVER KNOW, maybe the customer wants to order something else. I just had a waitress last night bring us the check just because we asked for boxes. She didn't even offer us dessert, which I actually wanted to order another mixed drink, but at the time I asked for the boxes, I still was drinking my margarita I had ordered beforehand, so I wasn't quite ready for the next drink yet, nor did I even decide what drink I wanted.
35. Do not waste your time writing "thank you" or draw smiley faces or even circle the amount on the check. If it's really busy, WHY make the customers wait to leave that much LONGER to write that? Even though some say it boosts tips, it truly doesn't for most people. Think about it. If someone has a bad experience, the server writing "thank you" is NOT going to help, because they STILL will be pissed off. If someone has a great experience, they are still going to tip what they are going to tip. They aren't going to just change their mind and give more. If they would, that would be rare. It wastes other customers that you serve time as well as those customers.
36. Don't tell the customer about a survey. Customers can READ FOR THEMSELVES! Don't waste their time telling them about it or circling it. The more the servers pressure me to take the survey, the more I WON'T do it. Just let customers decide for THEMSELVES if they would like to take the survey.
37. Do things in the order of arrival. If I just asked for the check, get the check unless someone's food or drink is ready that had ordered BEFORE I did. Don't go to 2 other customer's tables to find out if they need anything. That's just RUDE! People usually want to leave when they ask for the check, so be CONSIDERATE not to WASTE ANY of their time by getting the check as soon as possible unless someone's food or drink is ready that had asked for their stuff BEFORE I did.
38. Ring up the check within a 3 minute range at the MOST. Don't make the customers wait 5 minutes or more to be able to leave.
39. When giving back change or the credit card receipts, give back the check. I don't understand why some servers decide to keep the check? I happen to like to keep it remember what I got last time or if I do pay with cash or a gift certificate, I can remember the server's name.
40. Give ALL change back, even if it's just a penny unless the customer TELLS you to keep the change. NEVER just not return someone's change or ask if they want change. Always give back change unless the customer tells you to keep the change, because they haven't tipped you yet. One waiter one time kept 31 cents change and only gave me back a 5 dollar bill from a check that was $34.69 that I paid with (2) 20 dollar gift certificates. I found that to be presumsious of him. It WASN'T "HIS" money YET, it was my money. Instead of $4.50 we were going to leave, because his service wasn't so great, he got stiffed all because he STOLE from us. He had NO RIGHTS to that money YET! GIVE BACK ALL CHANGE UNLESS THE CUSTOMER SAYS YOU CAN HAVE IT!
41. Servers should wait until the customer has left to pick up their tips. I feel servers will find out soon enough and I feel if they take it when I am finishing my drink or dessert, if I didn't tip well due to not-so-great service, it makes me uncomfortable that they are probably giving me the evil eye. I feel just take the tips when the customers have left.
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JRW209
"Just admit you suck at Ur life.."
No, I just been informed I will be getting a raise at my job. NOPE, I don't suck at life. I am VERY hard worker that puts *EFFORT* and *CARING* into her job unlike the likes of you!
You must have a very low level job that requires no writing as your grammar is appalling! Also, there has to be zero interaction with another human being as you have no clue how to be respectful, polite or how to speak without cussing.
You call yourself a Christian yet there isn't an ounce of forgiveness in you. I your Pastor or mother could hear the words coming out of your mouth I am sure they would be ashamed!
Clean up your act, show some forgiveness and stop being so judge mental and maybe people may start listening to you, and in turn, you may not be so angry.
Jane
"You must have a very low level job that requires no writing as your grammar is appalling!"
I am making over $27,000 a year, so STFU BITCH! I may not be book smart, but I am smarter than these servers and managers.
I have more COMMON SENSE than the servers and managers.
"Also, there has to be zero interaction with another human being as you have no clue how to be respectful, polite or how to speak without cussing."
I do, the thing is, when people lie on here or use excuses to be lazy and uncaring, that I have a HUGE PROBLEM with, because it DOES affect our lives in our service that we get.
"You call yourself a Christian yet there isn't an ounce of forgiveness in you."
There is when you *********TRY YOUR BEST*********** and ********SHOW YOU CARE**********!
How can you forgive servers that don't say they are sorry even and/or don't even try their best, huh?
"I your Pastor or mother could hear the words coming out of your mouth I am sure they would be ashamed!"
No, I am not the ones out there that for example have facebook cursing on that. I am being an anonymous blogger. You don't know me.
When I served people at a donut shop/diner back between 1998-2002 off and on a little over 2yrs worth altogether(I was going to college back then in between and took some time off in between as well), I*****************ALWAYS************ said I was SORRY when I messed up even for NO TIP like drive-thru customers that I messed up something. At least I was NICE, still AM even if the server doesn't say they are sorry, I *STILL* THANK THEM! That's how much nicer I am than they are to me.
"Clean up your act,"
NO, I am a hard worker and expect others to work just as hard as I do.
"show some forgiveness"
As I said, when they show some caring and effort.
"and stop being so judge mental"
WHY? You have ZERO REASON not to try your best and if you let's say don't feel well that day, you aren't going to make good tips anyways, so just GO HOME! We don't want servers serving us that ruin our outings. That's not why people go out to eat.
I have every right to judge my service, because that's what a TIP IS, A JUDGE THAT DECIDES HOW MUCH OR IF THE SERVER GETS A TIP!
So what you are a manager? I have proven servers and managers wrong about the menu and the job that I knew MORE than they did. It's the GOD'S TRUTH!
"in turn, you may not be so angry."
I would still be angry. That's not going to stop anything. I mean for example, when we saw a waiter have on the *SAME* TRAY food for our table of 2 and another table put in front of my husband fried shrimp w/fries when he ordered crawfish au gratin and a baked potato. We *SAW* he NEVER ONCE got his pad of paper to verify WHICH TABLE HAD WHAT FOOD. HOW CAN YOU "FORGIVE" SOMEONE FOR BEING SO UNCARING AND LAZY ASS ON THE JOB, HUH?
When SHIT LIKE THAT STOPS HAPPENING, THEN I WILL BE MORE FORGIVING! Like if the waiter would have read it and then handed my husband that, then at least the waiter would have tried his best when he was handing out the food.
THEN I could forgive more, understand? The NOT TRYING GETS ME PISSED OFF! This isn't McDonald's, you have to verify WTF you are handing someone. You can't just aimlessly hand something to someone and expect it to be correct. It wasn't even the cook's fault, it was the waiter's fault which he admitted he grabbed the wrong entrée from the kitchen. HE ADMITTED IT EVEN! Why not try your best and why should you don't care? Then expect forgiveness, WTF???
27000? Whaaat that's soooo much...uh not..I made more than that last year just in tips ..get outta here ! I think you think your entitled but your not ..get a REAL job and stop hating on servers...go back to college and be someone..haha I did... and I'll be making twice as much as you in the blink of an eye...and that's starting out!
Don't cry
JRW209
"Don't cry"
You don't you mean. I am not crying.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You wouldn't last a day as a server in a reputable restaurant. If you think that a server has to be THAT perfect to get a puny 15% tip, then you are just a psycho. If it were possible to get a bachelor's degree in "Serving" then I could understand your concern in having impeccable service. However, 90% of servers don't give a damn about what you think and all they are thinking about is graduating from college. Personally, I would tip more if the service is not perfect but all mistakes were handled with respect and regards towards the customer rather than having a stone cold, robotic server who doesn't put forth any ounce of humor or human emotion. You seem like you have entirely too much time on your hands. Don't take yourself so seriously. (Yikes, bet I got stiffed there for ordering you around). God forbid someone LIEEEESSS to you! Sweet Jesus how dare they!? LYING FOOLS!!! Really? Get a life. If service means this much to you, just stay at home. $100 says that you are the customer that sets the server over the edge; rude, impossible to please, and just plain nuts. Good luck in your endeavors to find the "Perfect Server". I pray to God I never see you in my restaurant. I don't care what you tip.
Nice blog! I also am a server, watch my video how to be a good server on Youtube for more info if you're a server or waiter.
Good Vibes07
“You wouldn't last a day as a server in a reputable restaurant.”
I would and you know it! Why do you say that, huh? I am a VERY HARD WORKER. I am not like you. I BUST my ASS AT MY JOBS! Heck, even at my very first job in 1998 at a donut shop/diner, they gave me a 35 cents raise within a month and a half from $5.15 I started at back when min. wage was $5.15 in our state to $5.50 an hour. That shows how much I BUST MY ASS!
“If you think that a server has to be THAT perfect to get a puny 15% tip, then you are just a psycho.”
NO, but you sound VERY UNAPPRECIATIVE of a tip that you seem ENTITLED rather than *********EARNING********** YOUR MONEY and being appreciating someone gave you money out of their own free will. We tip 25%-30% and upwards for perfect service if you must know. You are psycho to think I would think that. 15% is for when minor mistakes happen especially with no apologies 12%-15%.
You are a psycho to think that all people will tip well for perfect service, because they won’t. We DO though. You must suck serving that you don’t think you should try for perfection at the very least.
“If it were possible to get a bachelor's degree in "Serving" then I could understand your concern in having impeccable service.”
What does going to school have to do with spending your hard earned money on service? So getting good service for your money is such an unreasonable expectation, but yet 20% or more from you servers is, WTF??? Seriously, you get what you give in the service. That’s fair and right to tip in that manner.
If anything, because there is no need for any type of schooling to be a server, I expect even more from them since anyone can do this job, it’s not rocket science. Why should there be a bachelor’s degree in serving to expect perfect service when people that work hard for their money should be able to expect it just for that reason, not because someone has a degree in something. So what, many people get degrees and don’t even end up using them, which is the GOD’S TRUTH and you know it!
“However, 90% of servers don't give a damn about what you think and all they are thinking about is graduating from college.”
Their tips will show it and you know it. If they don’t, then they will not be a server very long or make a lot of money.
“Personally, I would tip more if the service is not perfect but all mistakes were handled with respect and regards towards the customer rather than having a stone cold, robotic server who doesn't put forth any ounce of humor or human emotion.”
That has NOTHING to do with emotion to mess up and you know it! If I were your manager, I’d FIRE your ass for making customers not want to come back on purpose. So you’d rather have problems? NOBODY BUT *YOU* wants that and you know it, NOBODY!
I have got news for you, most servers are already emotionless with the lack of apologies when they forget my ranch or bring me my soft drink that is OBVIOUSLY low on syrup or bring me an obvious food error or forget something, etc. You talk about emotionless, tell me WHY servers don't say they are sorry in most cases for their mistakes, huh? I am nice to them, even THANKING them when they bring back the item when they fix it even. Still no sorry in most cases though. WHY is that, huh?
Most servers don't respect their customers with the lack of trying their best and lack of apologies.
“You seem like you have entirely too much time on your hands.”
What does this have to do with anything?
“Don't take yourself so seriously.”
You are to think that people should go to a restaurant wanting things to go wrong, as if STUPID ASS! NO, they want perfect service and the only person that doesn’t is *YOU*! You know that’s the GOD’S TRUTH!
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“God forbid someone LIEEEESSS to you! Sweet Jesus how dare they!? LYING FOOLS!!! Really?”
No one likes being lied to, even you STUPID ASS! So STFU LYING BITCH! Some servers have lied, because they are TOO LAZY ASS to do what I asked them to do. It’s not that they all forgot, it is that they were too LAZY to make a separate trip to bring the condiments out ahead of time.
“Get a life.”
Look in the *MIRROR*, because you are on my blog HYPOCRITE!
“If service means this much to you, just stay at home.”
Nope, I won’t.
“$100 says that you are the customer that sets the server over the edge; rude, impossible to please, and just plain nuts.”
None of this is true and you know it. I am actually *NICER* than the servers are to me in most instances in that I still *THANK* them even though most servers don’t say they are sorry for their mistakes.
$100 says that you are a LAZY ASS, UNCARING server who isn’t willing to BUST THEIR ASS for their tip. I know I am right there, otherwise, you wouldn’t be complaining about me and you know it. If you don’t want to do the amount of **********WORK************ for the people that do tip only 15% for perfect service, take your own advice you gave me about not going out to eat, **********DON’T BE A SERVER THEN**************!!
“Good luck in your endeavors to find the "Perfect Server".”
I have found PLENTY of them if you must know.
“I pray to God I never see you in my restaurant.”
That’s because I would make you *****************WORK HARD**************** for your money you lazy ass bitch and you know that is the GOD’S TRUTH, just admit it, otherwise, why would you have a problem with me, huh? I would pray to God I wouldn’t be served by a lazy ass, uncaring server like yourself that doesn’t want to try their best not to make problems for the customers. So the feeling is mutual!
“I don't care what you tip.”
Contradiction here you said: “If you think that a server has to be THAT perfect to get a puny 15% tip, then you are just a psycho.”
Obviously you do care, otherwise, WHY are you stating a percentage, huh? As I said before, I tip 25%-30% and more for perfect service.
As a server, I must say all this is good information. I have to say, at the same time, we are human, and do make mistakes. Multitasking is sometimes difficult for me. Yet what you said about stealing, and being really rude was on point. I would NEVER do those things. Maybe one day you can visit me at my restaurant ( I work at Olive Garden in Panama City Florida) and you can rate my performance for me. -Stacy
keep in mind we are human. Yet your info on stealing and being really rude was on point. These behaviors are simply unacceptable. Please visit me at my restaurant ( I work at Olive Garden in Panama City Florida) not to be confused with Panama City Beach (two completely different areas). I'm sure you would leave more than satisfied.
mama90
"whats next you walk into a doctors office and tell a specialist how to do their job"
NO, because that requires a ************COLLEGE DEGREE************, while serving doesn't even require a GED EVEN STUPID ASS! That means **********************ANYONE CAN BE A SERVER******************, ANYONE YOU DUMB IDIOT!
All you need to know is basic reading and writing like you could have gone to the 5th or 6th grade, then been a server. I am not talking about the age of those people. I am talking about adults.
"very curious as to what you do for a living besides telling people how to do their job ..."
Work in a office. What do you do?
"such a miserable moron you literally list a set of rules for something you have never done"
Considering I have proven servers and managers wrong about the menu and how to do the job correctly, OBVIOUSLY I DON'T *NEED* TO HAVE "DONE" THE JOB IDIOT! THAT PROVES IT! Here’s a story to prove you are wrong and I have PLENTY MORE STORIES AS WELL:
My husband and I had gone to try a certain Mexican restaurant for our first time. I ordered the nachos with shredded chicken for the appetizer nachos. Look at this on the menu:
“NACHOS DE LA CASA – Choice of ground beef
or shredded chicken, topped w/lettuce, pico de gallo,
sour cream, jalapenos and beans……………………………………………..7.25
w/Steak ……………………………………………………………………………………8.25
w/Shrimp ……………………………………………………………………………….9.25”
http://andalemargaritasgrill.com/menu.html
This is from the internet menu and it is just like this on the menu inside the restaurant. I didn’t specially order something not on the menu. We received grilled chicken from our waitress that you can *SEE* it wasn’t right, but I didn’t know since I don’t work there you know. Our waitress should KNOW what shredded chicken LOOKS like since SHE WORKS THERE, WE DON’T on the NACHOS she BROUGHT OUT!! It was our FIRST time there, so we didn’t know what it was supposed to look like(I should have though, but didn’t think about what shredded is supposed to look like, now I feel stupid about that I didn’t know just by looking at it the first second it hit the table) . Since nachos you can SEE the chicken, at least some pieces that aren’t covered up without TOUCHING anything, she should and could have caught her error for ringing it up wrong by her WRITTEN ORDER as well as the menu comparing that plate of food to the MENU noticing that there wasn’t an option nor did the customer say “GRILLED” anything. An option not on the menu even I DID NOT ORDER., HOW PATHETIC can you get, you don’t agree?
My chimchunga I specifically said shredded chicken. I didn’t think it looked right when I broke it open, but I didn’t know how they shred the chicken they served.
When we got our check, we were overcharged on TWO items. One was the nachos charging us $8.25(grilled chicken) when there isn’t even an *OPTION* on the menu(notice above from the internet menu) for that and I didn’t ask for something not on the menu. That was a dollar overcharge. Then, the grilled chicken is 50 cents more than what I ordered. $9.25 I was supposed to be charged, which I was charged $9.75.
I presented the problems to her nicely; she didn’t say she was SORRY even. I would have said I was SO SORRY and asked a manager if they can take off a least a soft drink for messing up if I were the server in that situation. It wasn’t just 2 overcharges, but she messed up 2 food orders as well by ringing them up wrong(at least the nachos for sure were rung up wrong) and SERVING the nachos wrong since it was obvious.
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When I told her about there wasn’t even an option for the grilled chicken on the menu she said “It was an accident”, which I told her, which is SO TRUE, she didn’t even “TRY”. She didn’t: A. BRING out the nachos OBVIOUSLY correct by comparing the written order and menu to the food B. Compared what she was RINGING UP to the menu and the written order C. Compared the check to the menu prices to what we ordered BEFORE she handed us. How can TWO mistakes on a check be an “ACCIDENT” when you had times where you could have caught the mistakes since the restaurant was almost empty( like one other table of 2 or 3 people at it and 2 or 3 people at the bar? All that time we ate, she could have CAUGHT her mistake, for REAL. Our check times were 1:34p.m., then the credit card receipt was 2:14pm., so in all that time, since the place was almost empty, she couldn’t have caught those errors? GET REAL!! That was pure laziness and lack of EFFORT to TRY to get things right.
So try to tell me HOW can I not *KNOW* how to do the job when I see this kind of UNCARING SHIT from a server, huh? If anything, that has TAUGHT ME what grilled chicken looks like compared to shredded chicken, that I knew the MENU *BETTER* than SHE DID, that she put in the order wrong for the chimchunga I am assuming since we got overcharged on that as well, she put in the order wrong most likely for the nachos since we got overcharged on that item as well. I couldn’t FATHOM doing **ANY*** of these things she did that *SHE* ALONE CAUSED OUR PROBLEMS at our table. See how I would be a BETTER, NON-LAZY, and MORE CARING server than she was, huh?
A good, caring server would have:
1. Since she wrote down what I asked for “shredded chicken” if she didn’t know the menu, she should have compared the menu while ringing up the items so she would have known “DUH NO GRILLED CHICKEN OPTION ON THE MENU EVEN AND THE FACT THAT I DIDN’T SAY “GRILLED” so she should have compared the written order to the computer screen she was ringing up.)
2. Before she brought it out, let’s say she put the order in correctly. She should have known how they shredded their chicken since she worked there to decide not to bring it out since you could clearly see it wasn’t shredded chicken on top the nachos.
3. When she put the order in for the chimichunga, assuming she most likely didn’t put it in correctly that she overcharged me on that, so she could have compared the menu to that item she was ringing up.
4. When she got ready to bring the check, she should have compared the menu prices to the check as well as the written order and found the errors, got them fixed from the manager BEFORE giving us our check.
So tell me how I don't know how to be a server, come on now, tell me MISS KNOW-IT-ALL IDIOT?
Have you ever thought that maybe its easier to say things then actually do them..I think planning every step in Ur head is way easier then actually executing those steps..good luck actually doing any of what u said
When it comes to tipping, people should tip a minimum of 15%. If the guest leaves less at least explain yourself, and tell us what we did wrong. Don't be scared to speak up and state your reason for leaving a bad tip. If and when i go out dining if there were mistakes that ruined my meal, I still leave a 15% but i explain to the server why i am doing so and that way they dont think im cheap. I usually leave 20%. Fair and Square.
The author of this blog has no idea what its like to be a server. It's not hard, it does take common sense and knowledge to execute the steps of proper service. Yes, anyone can land a server job, but at least be leniant with the new servers. There will always be new servers in all restaurant. A lot of the ideas and recommendations are okay but not when youre juggling 7 tables at once.
JRW209
"good luck actually doing any of what u said"
Unlike you I am not lazy and uncaring.
Stacy Nelson
"As a server, I must say all this is good information. I have to say, at the same time, we are human, and do make mistakes."
See I don't have a problem with mistakes. I have problems with the lack of trying and effort on the job along with servers that don't even be nice enough to say they are sorry.
"Multitasking is sometimes difficult for me."
Why? For example, if one person ask for a refill, you should ask everyone. I find a lot of servers don't do that. Also, lots of servers run off before I get a CHANCE to ask for everything. Also, many servers don't write *ALL* request down. If you have your pad of paper, it makes it easier for customers to ask for many things at once. OFFER things like let's say the customer is just finished their food, offer dessert, to-go boxes, a bag, any containers for condiments, refills, etc. Don't just ask them about dessert or boxes, but add more to it. OFFER things, you will get bigger tips for that to show you want to satisfy them. NOW, unless they ask for the check off the bat, then don't offer dessert. It's irritating when you have asked for the check, they still offer dessert. Servers need to realize that if we wanted dessert, we wouldn't ask for the check. I hate the second guessing so to speak.
"Yet what you said about stealing, and being really rude was on point."
Thanks, that means a lot. It is stealing when servers keep coins of the change. I mean if you get your change at a store or anywhere, why because someone makes tips they think they have rights to YOUR money and then on of that, tip themselves part of your money that *YOU* should get to decide, not them.
"I would NEVER do those things."
That's good. No one should. Stealing is stealing. I wouldn't care if the server owed me a penny, they'd get stiffed.
"Maybe one day you can visit me at my restaurant ( I work at Olive Garden in Panama City Florida) and you can rate my performance for me. -Stacy"
I live in Louisiana and have NEVER ONCE been to Florida in my lifetime, so sorry and even if we would one day go on vacation to Florida, since we have an Olive Garden in our area that we aren't to fond of(like we really don't care for the food too much(have gone not many times), we definitely wouldn't go there just for the simple fact that we have one here. It would be like us going to an Outback or Chili's in Florida, WHY if we have those restaurants here? So sorry, I wouldn't go there even if I liked the restaurant. Thanks for the invite though.
Stacy Nelson
"keep in mind we are human."
Yes I do. That's why when I see my server REALLY PUTTING for *EFFORT* and *TRYING* their best, I don't take off much(unless it's a major mistake, even then, not as much as if I would see them be lazy or not care).
"Yet your info on stealing and being really rude was on point. These behaviors are simply unacceptable."
Thanks. I totally agree.
"I'm sure you would leave more than satisfied."
Sounds like I would.
Erik Ruiz
"When it comes to tipping, people should tip a minimum of 15%."
If the service was mediocre, yeah, but not if it's bad, NO!
If my server steals from me or is rude or is just plain not trying their best, I am sure not going to reward them with a 15% tip.
Ever heard of positive and negative reinforcement?
It REALLY WORKS. You give a really high tip of 25%-30% or more when service was EXCELLENT beyond expectations. You give NOTHING at all when service was so horrible it ruined your outing. You give 20% for good service, 15%-19% for decent average mediocre service, 10%-14% not so great service. 0-9% for pretty horrible, but not so horrible to stiff.
You won't *LEARN* to not do the things wrong again if you aren't punished in some way. That's how life is. People that go to jail a lot of times *LEARN* to not do that behavior again.
"If the guest leaves less at least explain yourself, and tell us what we did wrong. Don't be scared to speak up and state your reason for leaving a bad tip."
I do most of the times, but not all the time. Sometimes it's common sense. If the server made us wait 20 minutes to pay and be able to leave, especially if it's not busy, COMMON SENSE. Get what I am saying?
"if there were mistakes that ruined my meal, I still leave a 15% but i explain to the server why i am doing so and that way they dont think im cheap."
That's why you get shitty service. You don't leave 15% if they "RUINED" your meal, you leave a bad tip or even nothing if it's really bad. 10% or even nothing if it's really bad.
Who cares what they think if they RUINED my outing? I could care less. I ask not to get them again. That's how I do things.
"I usually leave 20%. Fair and Square."
NO, what's fair and square is if they DESERVE that 20%, NOT if they didn't.
Eric Ruiz
"The author of this blog has no idea what its like to be a server."
Yes I do. You have NO IDEA what it's like to have the problems *WE* have encountered. Have you ever had completely wrong food brought to you before? Have you ever had an overcharge on your check? I bet you haven't had a wrong price, have you or would you even know even?
"It's not hard, it does take common sense and knowledge to execute the steps of proper service. Yes, anyone can land a server job, but at least be leniant with the new servers. There will always be new servers in all restaurant."
NOT if I know more than they do, NO FUCKING WAY! I don't have *ANY* HOURS I worked there, WHY THE HELL SHOULD I KNOW MORE THAN THEY DO? STUDY AT *HOME* BEFORE YOU GO TO WORK and QUIT BEING SO LAZY AND UNCARING ON THE JOB!
"A lot of the ideas and recommendations are okay but not when youre juggling 7 tables at once."
It's not at once. We all have TURNS!
You are really lazy to only respond to part of my statement..oh was it because you had multiple people to respond to ..lazy
Outback Steakhouse doesn't give exact or loose change. They round up or down accordingly.
Anthony Brown
If you don't return *ALL* of my change, I will stiff you(STEAL YOUR TIP FROM YOU, but the difference is, it's not really stealing what I am doing since a tip is *VOLUNTARY*, DUMMY)!
I have stiffed and WILL ALWAYS STIFF if someone STEALS! You deserve to go to JAIL!
The author of this blog is clearly a sociopathic narcissist. It is hilarious that I searched "server tips". I found a lot of useful information from people in the industry, excerpts from magazine articles, and blogs. Then I found a list of over 40 complaints,(mainly about Denny's, perhaps the author is non-white?) that started out fairly well purposed, and quickly degraded into the rant of a spoiled little brat. Springs 1, I'm sorry, but I have dealt with customers like you a million times. You will never be happy. If you made one visit to the restaurant I manage, and somehow, none of the 40+ things you hate happened to miraculously not happen during your visit, I'm positive you could come up with a list of 50 different things to complain about. Listen, the bottom line is this. 15% is standard. If you don't tip 15% something bad had to have happened and a manager should be involved. If you don't think 15% is fair, STOP GOING TO RESTAURANTS! If you go out as much as you claim to, you must be fairly regular customers at places, and I don't doubt for one moment that the staff at these places you frequent goes out of their way to piss you off. I would. 15%. I didn't make the rule, you didn't make the rule, and your server sure as fuck didn't make the rule, but it's STILL THE RULE OF THE LAND, and we are all living in the same one. Get up tomorrow morning, take a deep breath of fresh air, and thank God for life and family and happiness and quit ruining your life and the lives of those around you, (including your poor husband, my God how mortified he must be when you go out?) by constantly eating at restaurants!!!
James Hanson
"The author of this blog is clearly a sociopathic narcissist."
HOW?, NO, I am NOT, *YOU* ARE!
"the author is non-white?"
NO, I am VERY WHITE, but see, race has **************ZERO************ to do with this and you know it!!
My husband and I have had some of the *BEST* servers that were black. Some actually were *NICER* than the white servers.
"quickly degraded into the rant of a spoiled little brat. Springs 1, I'm sorry, but I have dealt with customers like you a million times."
NO, you just sound lazy and I have dealt with managers like you a million times where I have proven them wrong about knowledge about the menu and how to do the job itself that I know more than they do.
You just sound very lazy, otherwise, why would you have ONE PROBLEM with *ANY* of the things I have mentioned, huh?
"You will never be happy."
Then tell that to the servers we tip 25%-30% and upwards then, because they know we wouldn't be tipping that much if we were HIGHLY SATISFIED, DUHH!!
"I'm positive you could come up with a list of 50 different things to complain about."
NOPE, just do what the customer wants, get things in a fair timely manner, be nice, and try your best to get things correctly to the table that you can control, that's all you have to do.
"15% is standard."
NO, 18%-20% is standards. you need to read your menus about automatic gratuity for large parties. get with the times. It hasn't been 15% since 2006 or so at LEAST!
"If you don't tip 15% something bad had to have happened and a manager should be involved."
NOPE, only when it's like 8% or less. You have got to be kidding if you think I am going to involve a manager around 70% of my outings and ruin them MORE! I just ask not to get that server again, that's solves that issue.
"If you don't think 15% is fair, STOP GOING TO RESTAURANTS!"
It's fair when the service is average, NOT when it's not good or when it's wonderful I wouldn't dare tip only 15%, because that's insulting if they went all out for me I won't just tip them that.
"I don't doubt for one moment that the staff at these places you frequent goes out of their way to piss you off."
NOPE, NOT the restaurants I frequent, NO and some of them have new servers all the time, so at times I get a dumb newbie that I haven't had ONE minute of work there, but I know MORE THAN THEY DO about the food and the menu as well as how to do the job in general than they do.
"I would."
Then if you were a server, you'd get stiffed, so you'd suffer too. You are a MEAN PERSON, because I would ********NEVER********* do such a thing *EVER*!
"I didn't make the rule, you didn't make the rule, and your server sure as fuck didn't make the rule, but it's STILL THE RULE OF THE LAND, and we are all living in the same one."
No, a tip is *VOLUNTARY* in most cases, so they are under *MY* authority if they want it, *MY* set of *RULES*, ***********NOT*********** YOURS!!
Remember *****WHO****** is holding the money, it's not *YOU* the manager, is it?
"quit ruining your life and the lives of those around you, (including your poor husband, my God how mortified he must be when you go out?) by constantly eating at restaurants!!!"
I am not the one ruining my life, the **************LAZY, DUMB SERVERS ARE that have served us, DUHHHH!!
Highly entertaining. all the wild misinformation yyou've spewed out of your snout is just too funny. Food aside - you are not a good person. I hope you're content living in your small, bubble-like universe. As a server, I would give you the best experience I was capable of. But as another customer, I would openly tell your server to not worry about the crazies (you) and tip them myself. Point being? Servers try their best to make things go smoothly for you. You will not understand these words. You are not capable of the knowledge or simple empathy required to not be so... you. This post is just for all the new servers who read your blog (poor things) and think they arent good enough.
Side note: stop eating out so much and get some exercise - it does wonders for you chemically.
P.S. I am indeed calling you a fat, obnoxious, ignorant thunder cunt. You are wrong. I pity you.
Josh Harper
"all the wild misinformation yyou've spewed out of your snout is just too funny."
It's not misinformation and you know it. If so, PROVE IT, tell me at least *ONE* thing I have said that was wrong.
"Food aside - you are not a good person."
Yes I am. You don't know me. I give 25%-30% tips and even given Christmas bonuses to a couple of servers that went all out for us during the years of $20 with NOTHING but continued good service in return.
"crazies (you)"
NO, YOU are crazy to call another person this when you know they know what they are talking about.
"Servers try their best to make things go smoothly for you."
NO, MOST DON'T TRY THEIR BEST AND YOU KNOW IT!
Read Stef319's agreement which she works or did work at the time she wrote this at Red Lobster as a waitress:
http://stef319.hubpages.com/hub/Confessions-of-A-Food-Server
Stef319 said:
"I definitely know where you're coming from with servers, though. I will agree that 90% of our servers ARE lazy. They drive me crazy; as lazy as they are with their tables (who are providing their tips), imagine how lazy they are when it's time to do sidework and help clean the restaurant. They're always on their cell phones, outside smoking cigarettes, flirting with the cooks, when they should be paying attention to their guests. And I bet they get your orders wrong all the time because you're right-they are lazy. They expect a 20% tip always. They wonder why they get "stiffed" on a tip sometimes. It's because they didn't deserve a tip!"
Most don't try their best.
Most don't:
1. At times even not write your order down.
2. Write *ALL* request down(refills, bags, box, etc.)
3. Compare their written orders or tickets/computer screen orders to the food for obvious errors.
4. Compare the menu prices to the check prices to make sure the customers aren't overcharged.
5. Verify the amount they are even charging you(has happened a few times where the server hands us the wrong amount charged on the credit card along with the check that has the correct amount).
6. Some don't go in the order in which request came in because they are too lazy to do so(like make 2 trips to bring soft drinks and then when the bar drinks is ready make another trip for that is what they should do, but some don't).
7. I have had 4 or 5 servers tell me "You might have to remind me" because they were too lazy to write my order down and reread their written order.
There are probably others I can't think of now, but you get the point, don't ya?
NO, most don't try their best. MOST ARE LAZY AS ALL FUCK!
"You are not capable of the knowledge or simple empathy required to not be so... you."
I empathize with workers that *********TRY THEIR BEST*******, NOT with ones that didn't try at all.
For example, I mention to a waitress that my order is complicated that she may want to write my order down, refuses and then she forgets to put in a mai tai order, my side of mustard, and I had said no pickles, she brings out the plate with pickles ON the side by the fries which makes my fries taste like icky pickle juice(I HATE PICKLES).
That's an example of where I can't empathize with LAZY.
Also, 3 things she messed up, NO WAY. If she really tried her best, ONE thing on that order she would have messed up. She would have compared her written order to the food and noticed that the mustard was missing that she could have brought out ahead of time and the pickles on the plate. She would have also had a reminder of the bar drink I ordered as well.
"You will not understand these words"
You don't, because if that were *YOU* as the customer with that shit, you wouldn't want to put up with that either and you know it!
You are too lazy and stupid to understand all the things that servers *SHOULD* be doing!
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Josh Harper - Continued:
"This post is just for all the new servers who read your blog (poor things) and think they arent good enough."
Then WHY have I had SEVERAL COMPLIMENTS on my blog, huh:
READ AND WEEP:
http://howtobeagoodserver.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-be-good-server-in-restaurant.html?commentPage=6
MMTLori:
”As a server, I want to say that I appreciate your post. I know it is several years old but I plan on printing off this blog and showing it to the servers that I work with. You bring up some very excellent points about service and what a guest expects from their servers. I first read this run down about a year ago and began implementing some of these thoughts into my service. I have noticed that I have become a better server because of it. Thanks! August 3, 2012 9:59 PM”
http://howtobeagoodserver.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-be-good-server-in-restaurant.html?commentPage=4
Stef319
” MT
“Your system of never taking another tables drink order before turning in a ticket would back you up terribly, not to mention the humongous quantity of time you’d waste checking plates and menu prices. It would take you forever to get anything done.”
In my opinion, MT, once an order is taken, it should be put into the computer IMMEDIATELY. Once my guests place their order with me, the clock begins to tick. They should be getting their apps 5-10 minutes after they PLACE their order, and their entrees should take between 20-30 minutes (where I work). You really should not start off a new table with an appetizer or dinner order on hold.
The guests who just placed their order (who are hungry) are watching you approach another table. You then have to build your rapport, go over the specials, and possibly answer questions. This can potentially be very time consuming and your guests are not going to appreciate the delay in your service.
There are other times when it is acceptable to work all your tables together, but when you have a food order you shouldn’t be doing this.
The correct way to handle this is to approach the table (with the other tables’ menus in hand) and acknowledge their presence, and tell them YOU WILL BE RIGHT BACK. Then you ring in the order, go back to the table, and then you can do your greeting, go over specials, answer questions, etc. Now you can take your time with the new table cause you know that your other tables’ food is getting worked on by the kitchen.
I know that this can be time-consuming but it really is worth it. Waste no time getting food orders in.”
August 5, 2011 12:05 PM
http://howtobeagoodserver.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-be-good-server-in-restaurant.html?commentPage=8
"As a server, I must say all this is good information. I have to say, at the same time, we are human, and do make mistakes. Multitasking is sometimes difficult for me. Yet what you said about stealing, and being really rude was on point. I would NEVER do those things. Maybe one day you can visit me at my restaurant ( I work at Olive Garden in Panama City Florida) and you can rate my performance for me. -Stacy"
Shows you shame that people have actually said some *NICE* things about it, because THOSE people are not lazy and uncaring like you are, they are *HARD WORKERS*, which sound like you aren't.
"P.S. I am indeed calling you a fat"
I am 98 and a half pounds this MORNING at 5 feet zero inches tall. I am ************NOT************* FAT!
Why weight should have anything to do with this? Seriously, you have self esteem issues to mention this.
I have NEVER been fat in my lifetime. The most I have ever weighed was 106lbs and that was for about 6 months during 1999, that's it. That still wouldn't ever be considered fat or even chunky even. Most of my life I have been under 100lbs.
"You are wrong."
NO, I am right and you know it! HOW am I wrong if you are so smart, huh? Well, I am waiting......
You are just TOO LAZY to do the job CORRECTLY by being a hard, caring worker. Just admit the truth, because obviously it hurts.
Josh Harper
"You are not capable of the knowledge or simple empathy required to not be so... you."
An example of when I do empathize:
Server writes EVERY SINGLE THING I ask down, rereads it, almost looks like they are running around like a chicken with their head cut off so to speak meaning busting their ass and you notice that, they apologize when they have messed up something and they empathize as if that were *THEM* that for example, me and my husband had a waiter that offered something for free(as well as profusely apologized) over admitting that he forgot to put our appetizer order into the computer. I EMPATHIZED with him because he acted like if that were *HIM* as the customer how *HE* would feel. Not offering us something in the meantime as he did and not apologizing would have gotten him a complete stiff, but he ended up giving us $5 off our bill and we tipped 16% BEFORE the discounted amount. We didn't tip 20%, because I saw WHY this happened and that part I didn't sympathize with. He HUGGED some lady instead of working. If you fuck up and the reason *WHY* I see is that you are PLAYING on the job instead of WORKING YOUR ASS OFF, THEN you won't be getting sympathy from me. He had hugged the lady during that time period that we had just ordered our appetizer.
I would have tipped 19% if I would have seen him bust his ass, but he didn't. I wouldn't tip 20% on that, because no matter what you do, you can't give back our time. To me, time is much more important than money when I go to a restaurant. I would rather have not had $5 off our check and had wonderful service instead. I don't go out to eat to be miserable just to get a discount.
I wouldn't tip 20% on this because he wouldn't *LEARN* from it as well.
NO SERVER should be hugging on the job! WORK IS WORK, IT'S NOT PLAYTIME!
Its obvious you have never served in your life. You have some good points but you are also very arrogant. I suggest you serve first before you think you can judge good service. Its NEVER going to be perfect and if you expect that, then stay home and cook for yourself. (which wouldn't be perfect either) There are a lot of dynamics to serving and a lot of them are out of the servers control. Your expectations are unattainable. I can't stand serving people like you because even if I get swamped and make a TINY mistake, which I quickly fix, your chopping pennies off when I actually end up doing more work, sometimes for mistakes that aren't even my own. Ill tell you something though, serving is a great job, it teaches you patience and its VERY humbling. Servers are not mind readers and being one has given me a HUGE respect for servers because its not easy. Its very hard, very demanding and while your bitching at your server for a sauce the Expo forgot (we don't always have time to double check, which is the point of the Expo in the first place) we are running around starving because we are too busy to stop and eat because we are feeding everybody else. I always eat before work, and mid shift I am starving because I have been running around for 2.5 hours already. Imagine having to serve 5-8 tables like yours?? I can tell you are nit picky trying to find any mistake your highness; times that by 5 and you'll have an idea why the server may not be at your beck-and-call the entire time you are there for your visit.
Kuhrissa Lynn
"while your bitching at your server for a sauce the Expo forgot (we don't always have time to double check, which is the point of the Expo in the first place)"
NO, the "expo" didn't LEAVE THE KITCHEN IGNORANT IDIOT; *********** MY SERVER SHOULD DID THOUGH!!
When you go into your own kitchen grab a container or bottle of ranch, go to the bedroom(let's say you are bringing this to a person that is eating in bed due to that they have leg issues that can't get out of bed at that point), instead of grabbing the ranch, you didn't, you grabbed the bleu cheese bottle instead. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT *(************************YOUR FAULT************)* WHEN ***********YOU************ LEFT THE KITCHEN?
You do have time, because you *MAKE THE TIME*!
Read and weep LAZY ASS, VERY FUCKING UNCARING BITCH:
http://archive.slickdeals.net/f/600104-Thoughts-on-Tipping-in-Restaurants?sduid=249745&p=7915572&highlight=springs1#post7915572
Demosthenes9 said: "Absolutely right. As a waiter, it was ultimately my responsibility to ensure that EVERYTHING was correct with your food. Cooks would plate up entrees and the expediter would "build tickets" by collecting the correct entrees, adding the side items, and placing the plates on a tray to complete the order. (at least that's how it worked just about everywhere I have been). At that point, the waiter SHOULD check each plate to see that the order is correct to include having the correct side items. Waiter should also make sure that the food is still hot and didn't "die in the window" while waiting for the order to be filled. Lastly, a waiter who actually knows what he is doing can simply look at your steak and tell with some accuracy whether it is cooked correctly or not. (There are of course exceptions where steaks are "borderline", like right between medium rare and medium, or between medium and mid well.)I have had any number of cooks yell at me because I told them to recook a steak before I even took it to the table. It doesn't take a genius to see a somewhat burnt steak sitting on a plate and to figure out that it ISN'T medium rare as ordered.) The funny thing is, if waiters took the time to pay attention to the little details like the one's Spring mentioned, they would actually have MORE time on their hands to take care of customers. Afterall, it takes maybe 30 seconds to check over an order and make sure it's correct. Failure to do so means that you now have to go all the way back to the kitchen, argue with a cook, get a replacement side item, then carry it back out to the table. That time could have been better spent taking care of other tables instead."
It's funny how Demosthenes9 had time, but you don't, WTF??? He was a waiter and he found the time. HMMM, maybe that's because he is not lazy and uncaring like you are?
The server is leaving one room, going into another to bring me my food.
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If you wish, you can bring out condiments ***********AHEAD OF TIME*********** like a lot of servers do for me. I just had waitress do this yesterday for me. Isn't that something, huh? Now, granted I did ask, but that doesn't mean she had to bring out the 2 mayos, the mustard, and the ranch out ahead of time. I did it because I was with my parents and didn't want to add to anymore problems that most likely will occur.
Why can't you accept the fact that you are supposed to *EARN* your tip that if you leave a room without something or with a completely wrong item that isn't covered up, if you are the server that took the order, *YOU* are the one that is at fault for the problem?
You have time. If you have time to buss a table, you have time. If you have time to chit chat with customers, you have time. You have time, because if you have time to go All the WAY FUCKING BACK to get it as the waiter said, you created MORE TIME and MORE WORK.
STOP MAKING EXCUSES TO BE LAZY AND UNCARING!
Remember, the customer is tipping *YOU*, NOT THE EXPO, so I don't give a flying fuck what goes on *BEFORE* that dish comes to my table. Once it's at my table, if you brought out my food and you were my server, *YOU* are at fault.
"Its obvious you have never served in your life."
You obviously haven't been a customer much with problems, have you?
"I suggest you serve first before you think you can judge good service."
I suggest you get these situations happen to *YOU* and then go serve, because you have NO CLUE what it**************FEELS LIKE************** to have your condiments forgotten or more like IGNORED SOOO MANY FUCKING TIMES, because of lazy, uncaring servers like yourself that aren't willing to BUST YOUR ASS FOR YOUR TIP!
There are many servers that have VOLUNTARILY WITHOUT *ME* asking that they have brought out the condiments out ahead of time. Some said "So I won't forget could I bring these out ahead of time" or some even did it without asking first.
It's anything in life that if you forget a pen by leaving a room with a pencil instead of a pen, HOW can you blame someone else for *****************YOUR FUCK UP*********, HUH?
Kuhrissa Lynn
"There are a lot of dynamics to serving and a lot of them are out of the servers control."
But most *ARE* in your control. Don't act like you are BLIND OR ILLITERATE when you bring me my food without me touching it that if you are my server that took my order that can't tell I don't have some condiments or I have the wrong side dish, because you are an IDIOT if you think otherwise!
It is *ALWAYS* the server's fault 100% of the time when a condiment is forgotten, because they can bring that stuff out ahead of time *NO MATTER* WHO* RUNS THE FOOD!
You can't fault the expo ***************EVER************** for a DUH MISTAKE!
Even if another server runs the food, if I have a wrong side dish and you put in the order correctly, that is the fault of that other server, *NEVER* the expo, because the expo didn't bring me my food with a DUH mistake that they were supposed to have compared the ticket or computer screen order to my food *************BEFORE************* they left that kitchen!
Im not arguing with someone as pathetic as you. Your more arrogant then I thought. I was just saying if you want it perfect then stay home. My tip proves my service. Not what you say on some blog in cyberspace. High and mighty behind a screen. Why don't you talk to the servers that are really upsetting you? Instead of venting your ignorance online. I actually wanted some advice to be BETTER, not to read a rant about a person who expect perfection and put everybody else down around them? Hmm? I have nothing to prove to you and your stupid Blog. Like I said, you have some good points, but your ignorant and have no place to judge, because you have never served, and therefore you DONT know what it is like. So just stop with your pathetic online rants and TALK to the servers about the issues you have with them...or are you too lazy?
Kuhrissa Lynn
"Servers are not mind readers"
Then if you feel that way don't give refills without asking their permission first, don't bring ketchup if it's not on the table without asking first, don't bring out water or water with lemon without asking first, don't bring the check without asking if it's OK with the customer first then, etc.
Get what I am saying? If you can't read minds, WHY are servers TRYING TO?
"mid shift I am starving because I have been running around for 2.5 hours already."
Why don't you ********EAT MORE IN ONE MEAL OR EAT MORE FILLING FOODS, TRY OATMEAL RATHER THAN SOMETHING LIKE PASTA FOR EXAMPLE*********!?
Don't blame us for that SELFISH BITCH! No one is making you be a server, but *YOU*!!
"Imagine having to serve 5-8 tables like yours??"
I imagine it all the time and would be *GLAD* NOT to be bored as well as GLAD to EARN a tip by working *HARD* as I can unlike the likes of you. I would offer to bring out condiments ahead of time.
"Your expectations are unattainable."
Then WHY have we gotten PERFECT SERVICE A LOT BEFORE, HUH? It's more from the servers that we request that even from the first time, were great as to WHY we keep asking for them.
"I can't stand serving people like you because even if I get swamped and make a TINY mistake, which I quickly fix, your chopping pennies off when I actually end up doing more work, sometimes for mistakes that aren't even my own."
If the mistake was not in my service such as the cook's mistake, I wouldn't DARE EVER take off for it. Now if the other server brings out the wrong side dish and you put in the order correctly, well, yeah you are going to get a lesser tip because you should be TIPPING THAT SERVER that helped you out. If you aren't, DUHHHHHHHH that's WHY the server that ran the food didn't care, think about it......
At least a buck or two out the tip if they bring the food. THAT is what they should be getting from you. If it's a food runner getting tipped out of sales, there's no incentive, so you should give something OUT OF THE TIP then as well, otherwise, WHY should they work for no tip, huh?
What a tiny mistake to you? Tiny mistake to me is forgetting a straw or salt missing on my margarita glass. Major mistakes are missing condiments, wrong side dishes or entrées, any overcharges, forgotten refills, etc.
"because its not easy. Its very hard, very demanding"
It's hard, but there are no demands. If you feel the job is "demands", you are soooo in the wrong line of work.
These are INSTRUCTIONS, NOT DEMANDS that customer ask for.
"while your bitching at your server for a sauce the Expo forgot"
This is the one that I just HATE, because the expo isn't my server *EARNING* their tip, so you can't POSSIBLY blame it on anyone else but *YOURSELF*!
Let's say your mom is making some food, she plates honey mustard on a plate, but your friend you took her order, she ordered ranch with her food. You know that, but you bring your friend the plate not checking it. OBVIOUSLY, it's not your mom's fault your friend doesn't have her ranch and has honey mustard instead, it's ***************************YOURS***********************!
WHY can't you expect *************************SELF-RESPONSIBILITY***************** FOR YOUR ACTIONS, HUH?
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Your mom didn't forget since she didn't bring your friend your food nor did she take her order either.
You could have brought that ranch out ahead of time for your friend, NO EXCUSES!
It sure doesn't take 20 minutes or more to get a side of ranch and you know it!
The expo didn't leave a room so they can't POSSIBLY BE AT FAULT!
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BLAME THEM EVER, because my server still can bring it out ahead of time!
Now, as far as a wrong or missing side dish is concerned, if the expo brought me my food as well and you put in the order correctly, ONLY because the expo is bringing me my food would they be at fault for that.
ACCEPT SELF-RESPONSIBILITY AND QUIT BEING LAZY!!
Hahahaha...your post really are pathetic. Im done here. Have fun being angry with the world for not getting your ranch in time. boo hoo
Kuhrissa Lynn
"Hahahaha...your post really are pathetic. Im done here. Have fun being angry with the world for not getting your ranch in time. boo hoo "
You just don't want to admit that you are in charge of your OWN TIP when it comes to condiments, NOT the expo! YOU EARN YOUR OWN TIP IN LIFE! NO ONE BUT ******YOU******** IS GOING TO DO THAT FOR YOU!
Kuhrissa Lynn
"Have fun being angry with the world for not getting your ranch in time. boo hoo"
See how *MEAN AND UNCARING as well as *VERY LAZY* you are, huh?
I have VERY GOOD ADVICE of if you are that forgetful or think that someone else is going to run the food, *******************BRING OUT THE CONDIMENTS BEFORE THE FOOD IS READY**********, so this way, it's GUARANTEED NO ONE WILL FORGET THEM!
Why can't you understand I KNOW what I am talking about, huh?
I know why, it's because you are TOO LAZY ASS to do the job the way you SHOULD BE DONE!
"I was just saying if you want it perfect then stay home."
No, because I have perfect without staying home lots of times, so why bother? Plus, I don't go for the service(except when we go to see the nice, hard workers at restaurants we frequent), I go to be out and for the good FOOD.
"My tip proves my service"
You know that's not true, because you could make more for one thing, two, you know sometimes you don't make a good tip because of cheap people, and thirdly other times people tip no matter what the service they get and you know it, so NO, tips don't prove anything.
Think about it, look at this person's comment:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/19/if-you-thought-those-automatic-gratuities-you-get-slapped-with-at-restaurants-were-bad-this-lawsuit-claims-its-much-worse-in-new-york-city/?corder#comments
MODERATETHINKER said: "I have never tipped based on price. I always give a simple tip. I even one tipped someone really low and had her come back and ask me if she had done anything wrong. I said no I just felt like tipping that low."
See this person is saying that they just felt like being cheap. Did it reflect what the server did wrong? NO, it didn't in his case.
So NO, tips don't prove you did well, because some people tip no matter what or because they are a server that is lazy like yourself, so they feel sorry for you.
"your stupid Blog."
You say that in that sentence and then say "Like I said, you have some good points,", so you are being CONTRADICTORY don't ya think?
Obviously, I DO know what I am talking about.
The way you prevent problems is to do them *YOURSELF* if you can and you can ALWAYS CONTROL condiments that are on the side.
Even pizza delivery drivers should bring an ice chest with cheese sauces, ranches and others so when they forget sauces, they don't have to go all the way back to restaurant to get them.
Condiments no matter what is always preventable. This is *YOUR* job as the server to get them right since it's *YOUR TIP* on the line!
"therefore you DONT know what it is like."
You don't know what it's like for *ME* to have to sit waiting to eat my food for people like you that want to be LAZY, UNCARING assholes. Once, I asked FOUR FUCKING TIMES for one side of honey bbq sauce and one side of ranch at a Chili's, which we ended up getting it from a MANAGER. This is how it went, I ordered it when I originally ordered from our waitress. Another server, a waiter brings out the food. I tell him about the ranch and honey bbq sauce. He doesn't apologize for forgetting them, NOR does he go to get them. Then our server is pouring water, sees I am not touching my food since my fries go with the ranch, the garlic & lime shrimp I liked it with the honey bbq sauce so my entire entrée was consisted of why I decided to get it was because of the dipping sauces. I would have ordered something else if I didn't have them. I tell her that I told the other waiter. Instead of being a caring, non-lazy waitress to investigate where it was, NO. So since she wasn't going to get them, my husband saw I was miserable letting my food get cooler by the minute finally got a manager to get them. FOUR MINUTES LATER, which is a VERY LONG TIME when the other person or people at the table have their food correct start eating, you don't.
So FUCK YOU UNCARING, LAZY BITCH!
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You have NO IDEA HOW IT FEELS FOR THIS TO KEEP HAPPENING!
I don't normally ask for the condiments ahead of time at times, because I feel the server should earn their own tip.
I called the next day at Chili's and the manager agreed I shouldn't have to ask for the condiments ahead of time. This is RIDICULOUS!
Our waitress had 100% control over bringing those out ahead of time and avoiding the entire situation. She got 9%, but before this she would have gotten 25%. She decided to make me ask 4 times. We should have stiffed her for that. It's RIDICULOUS and then NO APOLOGY to BOOT from the waiter that ran the food nor from our waitress either.
You just don't get that without the condiments, I wouldn't order that item.
I go at restaurants "I like the ranch here" that's how I decide where to go. I actually go to restaurants based on their condiments. I know for example, Red Lobster's tartar sauce is awesome in my opinion. I also know I can't go buy that in a store. I could make my own if I wanted to, but I do enjoy just being out even if the service was bad, I still enjoy the food and company at least.
"TALK to the servers about the issues you have with them"
Once I did and it backfired to where I helped this waitress get fired.
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My husband and I had a waitress at Chili’s. When I placed my bar drink order, I had to spell Jose Cuervo to her(think about it, if it's a Chili's, that they are famous for their margaritas, so why wouldn't you know the most common tequilas out there). That's not my job to spell a tequila, that's RIDICULOUS and INSANE! She wrote down my food order, but SHE brought out my food with the most OBVIOUS things WRONG. I ordered “Grilled Baby Back Ribs with honey bbq sauce on them with substituting the bowl of cinnamon apples that the ribs came with it for extra fries, 2 sides of honey bbq sauce, 1 side of ranch, and 1 side of mayo. She comes out with the BIG BOWL of cinnamon apples on the plate with only my side of ranch as well as NO extra fries and has the audacity to ask me when she brought out our food “So what did you order” when she WROTE IT DOWN. That was just showing how VERY LAZY she was NOT to REREAD the order. Aren't we PAYING the server to *REREAD THE ORDER AS THEY WROTE IT DOWN TO GET IT AS OBVIOUSLY CORRECT AS FAR AS WHAT IS IN THEIR CONTROL TO NOTICE?*** She probably STUPIDLY threw the paper away. The manager told me she put in the order correctly. WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO PUT IN THE ORDER CORRECTLY IF THE FOOD IS WRONG? The ticket being correct doesn't matter if my food is OBVIOUSLY wrong, I STILL have my food wrong. It's like whose fault is it for making my food wrong is NOT the issue; it's that the food is WRONG that's the issue. Bringing it to me like that makes the server look like a complete IDIOT when that BIG BOWL of cinnamon apples was on the plate since she took my order. If another server takes my food to me, that's an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT situation(EXCEPT FOR THE CONDIMENTS OF COURSE SINCE THOSE CAN BE BROUGHT OUT AHEAD OF TIME), but when it's the SAME SERVER that takes the order there should be some *EFFORT* to make sure my food is taken to the customer correctly as far as OBVIOUS mistakes go. It's like NO EFFORT on her part to make sure I had EXACTLY what I ordered. It makes me mad that they can’t REREAD the order BEFORE they take it to me. At about 15 minutes(9:18pm.)waiting for my margarita she asks if I had been brought it, which I told her no, but I couldn't help myself, I told her about all my complaints, because I was really getting SICK of her horrible service without ANY APOLOGIES. I had to ask for utensils TWICE. I told her about that I had to ask for utensils twice and she replied "That's the hostess's job" right to my face. I ended up reporting her to corporate and she got fired. Yes, we STIFFED the waitress, DESERVABLY SO. She could have gone to check on my margarita after the 10 minute mark(9:12p.m.), NOT almost 15 minutes which is what she did. My husband and I were WELL finished our meals even with the mistakes she made by the time my margarita arrived. I NEVER got ONE apology from her, NOT ONE. I had reported this situation to the manager due to the fact that I had waited for a half an hour for. Turns out they were out of shakers that the Presidente' margarita came in, so there was a mix up. The bartender made my margarita in the wrong glass. The bartender never told the server about the situation nor did she find out about it within a reasonable amount of time, therefore, I ended up getting my margarita from the manager after waiting literally a half an hour for it(9:02p.m.-9:35p.m.) way after me and my husband were done eating. Someone else apparently ended up getting the margarita that was mine. The waitress NEVER ONCE apologized for all those mistakes. That was one of the RUDEST waitresses I've EVER encountered. If she would have said she was sorry at least once even, I probably wouldn't have been so pissed off. Some servers are really UNCARING and MEAN.
So did it help to tell her what she did wrong? No, all she did was SASS ME BACK and it cost her job because of it.
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I tried by telling her this and that what she did wrong. Did it help her? NO, because she was a bitch like you that wanted to blame the expo on the condiments when both of those issues are SERVER issues 100%!
I mean if we didn't have utensils before we got our drinks, I wouldn't have taken off for that, I would at least given the server the *CHANCE* to notice, but not when we have our drinks and been there for a while, my server should notice if I have a napkin or utensils. That's not my job to get up to get them, although a few times I have gotten up to get them.
So yeah, all of those issues were server issues and none of those issues could be possibly blamed on ANYONE ELSE!
So what's your point of me confronting them? I got her fired, because NO ONE is going to SASS ME and LIE to me. It's not the hostess's job once we have had our drinks in front of us, it becomes the server's responsibility at that point to notice these things. It's not our job to ask for utensils, that's insane. It's just like asking for straws, you shouldn't have to ask for that. That's not something order, that's basic needs at your table.
"or are you too lazy?"
Not too lazy, but it just doesn't accomplish things. Talking to the manager accomplishes more so that way they don't get defensive with me.
I honestly thought our waitress knowing she wanted a decent tip would have said after I told her all the things she messed up on would have said "I'm so sorry". I was honestly FLOORED when "It's the hostess's job" came out of her mouth. It's not the other people's jobs in this case nor in the condiments issues. That's not their jobs, that's *MY SERVER'S JOB* to earn their OWN TIP IN LIFE! NO ONE IS GOING TO MAKE YOUR TIP FOR YOU OTHER THAN ************YOU********************(not counting obviously if another server brings out the food with obvious errors, but you put in the order correctly which that is not something you have control over), which I am not talking about those issues, I am talking about when you do have control over the issues like utensils and condiments.
It's easy, just bring them out ahead of time and you WON'T FORGET!
"Instead of venting your ignorance online."
Yet you said : "Like I said, you have some good points,"
That sure doesn't make sense to me saying those 2 contradictory sentences.
"I actually wanted some advice to be BETTER, "
How can you say it's not better to be a mistake preventer by TRYING not to fuck up, huh?
" not to read a rant about a person who expect perfection"
As I said before, servers expect 20% PERFECT TIP, so I don't see how my expectations differ yours and all the other servers in that respect? Please tell me how is that *ANY* different than what YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, HUH?
YOU EXPECT me not to take off tip points, but I can't get service that has no mess ups or very little mess ups that are small, wth? It's a 2-way street.
You expect 20% and you know it everytime, so SHUT THE HELL UP LADY, because you don't want to admit you want that PERFECT TIP, so in order to do that more often you have to actually try to do a perfect job. You can if you want to. You want to blame the expo, well that's why you are going to get tip points off, because you don't want to work hard. Hard workers do it for me WITHOUT ME HAVING TO ASK THEM to bring the condiments out ahead of time.
Why blame the expo for something you can accomplish without them, huh? You can accomplish those condiments getting to my table without their input well before the food comes.
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It's kind of like the servers that blame the menus and the computer for the wrong prices or the manager, it's not any of those things or people's faults, it's the LAST PERSON that saw my check that could have gotten the wrong price fixed from the manager *BEFORE* they brought me my check. Could have been done well before I even got my food or bar drink or whatever it was that was overcharged even.
Start looking at it from the way things really are that the *LAST* person to see something is to blame(not counting if another server put in the order wrong when that other server is delivering the food nor counting any mistakes that you'd have to touch the food to notice they were wrong).
This is at *ANY* job. Your job is to check the other co-worker's work, even your manager's work. Your manager is NOT GOD, NOR PERFECT that makes mistakes too or even intentionally overcharges customers. I know, I have gone to a restaurant that refused to get corporate to fix the prices and got overcharged on the same items 4 times. They just kept taking it off the bottom of the receipt, but they didn't actually change the price in the computer. Even though the manager can't fix it, he could have informed his staff of this issue and he should have TRAINED them to check the prices. See, how that's intentionally overcharging the customers by refusing to do those things?
"put everybody else down around them? "
The server is the ONLY PERSON that is creating me to be pissed off and sad when they do things like this.
Do you even say you are sorry when you mess up? Obviously it sounds like you don't that you can't even admit that the expo is not to blame for the condiments issues.
Anything you forget to bring from the kitchen if you are the server that took the order OR if the order has been put in correctly when you are delivering another server's food, that's on ********YOU********(except for if it's condiments, it's actually on MY SERVER 100%, because how can you really blame this other server if they aren't getting *ANY* of the tip to check the food)? Seriously, if they aren't getting tipped, why would they have any incentive to check the food *BEFORE* they left the kitchen?
It IS BETTER advice, because it's getting things that could be forgotten FOR SURE NOT FORGOTTEN, understand?
Kuhrissa Lynn
One more thing.
My server is responsible for hence the name "SERVING" my food as correctly as they possibly can notice without touching the food to earn their tip, NOT the expo!
The expo is not a server, therefore, they cannot be held responsible if my server forgets my condiments, EVER!
If the expo is the person also running the food to me, if the order was put in correctly by my server, if it's something that's an error that no one has to to touch the food to notice the mistake that isn't a condiment such as a wrong side dish, then that's on the expo, but ONLY if the expo actually delivered my food. If another server or food runner delivered my food with the wrong side dish when my server put in the order correctly, it's on that other server/food runner, NOT the expo since the expo wasn't the last person to see an obvious error on my plate. They have a computer screen order or ticket to compare the food to if you didn't take my order for obvious errors like that.
Just to say how IGNORANT you really are and how IRRESPONSIBLE as well as LAZY/UNCARING you really are that someone has to explain this to you.
Even other servers are telling you you are wrong, so what does that tell you?
It tells me that you are lazy and uncaring.
If a customer orders a side of ranch with their fries along with a side of mayo and a side of mustard for their burger n' fries, that's up to *YOU* since you are their server to get those condiments correctly to the table by offering to bring them out ahead of time and then if they are OK with that, bring them out ahead of time. This way, you WON'T forget and you WON'T have to check that part of the food when it's ready when by then it might be busier even.
EARN YOUR OWN TIP IN LIFE LIKE OTHER SERVERS HAVE DONE FOR ME ALL ON THEIR OWN!
I had for example a waitress that told me "Would it be OK if I brought those out ahead of time so I won't forget" since I ordered a lot of condiments. She got herself 28% tip. WHY? She wasn't lazy and uncaring like you were. SHE did it ALL ON HER PRECIOUS OWN by being a HARD, CARING WORKER! I did have another server run the food and do you want to make a bet that those condiments would not have been with my burger and fries, huh? She earned her own way in life, WHY NOT YOU? Others are doing it, WHY NOT YOU? This was when we waited like 30-40 minutes or so for a table at 8p.m. on a busy Saturday night at Chili's and she somehow found the time to make other trips to the table(she actually brought some and then brought one last one in another trip(not sure why, but it still came before my food came out). She found the time, WHY NOT YOU?
WHY are you so OPPOSED TO WORKING HARD and WHY are you so not understanding that you want that perfect tip, HOW is that *ANY* different than what a customer expects from you, huh?
Wow your still going on about condiments.
Kuhrissa Lynn
"Wow your still going on about condiments."
WOW, you STILL AREN'T GOING TO ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG WITH THAT YOU *CAN* BRING OUT THE CONDIMENTS AHEAD OF TIME, HUH?
My server's job is to *SERVE* it as correctly as they possibly can, which this *IS* something in their control, you can't deny the TRUTH! WHY be LAZY and UNCARING when you can be a hard, caring worker to make MORE money, huh?
It IS GOOD ADVICE and you know it. You just don't want to do the amount of *WORK* it takes to really serve correctly, otherwise, WHY have servers done it for me WITHOUT me even having to ask, huh? I know why, those aren't lazy servers and they actually *****************CARED************** about me as a person if I was happy or not with my service so they could get a huge tip, that's why. They were WILLING to do the job correctly, you aren't. You want to wait until the food comes out. There's no need to wait 10-20-30-40 minutes to get some condiments, just go get them. You will at least have that right regardless of WHO ends up bringing out the food. That's the entire point of this that not only does it ensure *YOU* won't forget if you bring out the food, but that if someone else brings out the food that isn't seeing *ANY* part of the tip, they will most likely NOT compare the ticket to the food, so in turn, it WILL come out wrong ANYWAYS, so you will have to do double the work most likely anyways. Sure, the expo could plate the food correctly, but 9 times out of 10, the condiments are never right, so why not ENSURE they are right?
If you have time to chit chat or buss a table, you for SURE have time to make another trip to bring out these condiments, even for condiments that COME with an item. I would ENSURE my customer would have what they ordered. That's why I would WAYYYY out do you in the tips, because I am not lazy and uncaring like YOU ARE!
I would NOT want to serve this person...I cant even tell you how many idiotic people come into my job everyday and I think this person is one of them..If youre always getting bad service where you go then maybe you should stop being such a horrible person and cook at home
Also Im dying of laughter at the responses you are posting. You sound so dumb I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. There is really no need at all to write a ten page paper in your response..
Kuhrissa Lynn
"Sucks when what goes around, comes around."
Oh yeah, one more thing, it sucks for the servers that have to *PAY* to serve us when we have stiffed them for their HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE service.
Krystal McCarthy
"would not want to serve this person..geez just eat at home where you have all the control so you dont have to complain here"
You are a lazy, mean human being. You just don't want to do the *WORK* for the money is all.
"I cant even tell you how many idiotic people come into my job everyday and I think this person is one of them."
HOW? PROVE IT!
"If youre always getting bad service where you go then maybe you should stop being such a horrible person and cook at home."
No, I am not always getting bad service, just sometimes. I am not a horrible person, YOU ARE THOUGH to tell me that.
"Also Im dying of laughter at the responses you are posting. You sound so dumb I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. There is really no need at all to write a ten page paper in your response.."
You sound DUMB, because all the things I have said would make for good service that would rarely have mistakes and you know it. The only person here is *YOU* that's dumb!
I can write the amount of stuff I want, it's my blog CONTROLLING BITCH!
blackdesert
"I don't disagree with almost anything you said, but you still sound like a whiny bitch."
I am VERY NICE PERSON! You don't know me. I actually "THANK" my server even though some servers don't say they are sorry when they mess up.
My point is, I am a much nicer person than some of these servers.
So why do you agree with it? I am just curious.
I think that there are some good points here but overall the person who wrote this sounds TOO picky. But hey everyone has their own opinion.
the language in these comments are out of control...
JAYLOR07
"I think that there are some good points here"
Thanks!
"but overall the person who wrote this sounds TOO picky. But hey everyone has their own opinion."
Everyone should get what "THEY" want for *THEIR* TIP MONEY! I don't see what's wrong with wanting what you want for *YOUR* hard earned money?
JAYLOR07
"the language in these comments are out of control..."
Then don't read if you don't like my comments. No one is making you!
Please don't be rude. You don't have to curse to get your point across or call people names when you don't even know them.. there's a comment box for a reason, so people can comment not be harassed, I'm sure as an adult you can understand that...Like I said you have some really good points that i will definitely keep in mind while I'm serving others so i can provide better service an experience. Personally I'm just not as picky.
JAYLOR07
"Like I said you have some really good points that i will definitely keep in mind while I'm serving others so i can provide better service an experience."
Thanks, I appreciate that!
"Personally I'm just not as picky."
Why not strive to be a mistake preventer as far as the mistakes from others that ends up being your mistake if you end up bringing it to the customer's table as far as things you can control such as condiments? Like if I order some sides of mayo, there's no reason why my server couldn't prevent that issue from being forgotten whether it's another server that ends up delivering my food or my own server that forgets to bring it when the food is ready.
Why not strive to do the BEST possible job you can to *TRY* YOUR BEST so the customer can get close to and sometimes even perfect service?
That's my point of this blog. It's to show all the things that I am tired of that go wrong in my service. Who wants things to go wrong? I don't know anybody. We all know no one is perfect, but when I have had things go wrong, no matter how nice I am, some servers are just jerks not apologizing. I firmly believe in the saying "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." If they would just simply say they were sorry, their tip would be better even with a huge mistake even. Some servers are afraid if they admit fault, their tip will not be as good, but it's actual the complete opposite when it comes to things that are obviously their fault like condiments being forgotten or a refill forgotten, etc.
"Why not strive to do the BEST possible job you can to *TRY* YOUR BEST so the customer can get close to and sometimes even perfect service?"
I agree I see a lot of people I work with make small mistakes, I definitely want to improve, I will be keeping all that in mind!
Springs1,
You commented on my blog about waitressing and before responding, I thought it only fair to read your blog as well.
I have to say, it's obvious to me you are an experienced diner because you have great ideas about what service SHOULD be like, but it's clear to me you have never been a server because some of your recommendations go against protocols of the restaurant, and some are impossible to do in the way you think they should be done.
For instance, on my blog, you suggested I leave my tray of dirty dishes on an empty table in order to process a check. I was envisioning a certain section of my restaurant in which that would be impossible to do that, but more importantly, it's against restaurant policy to leave a tray of dirty dishes on another table. I have to follow protocols first, customers second.
Additionally, I'd be happy to go point by point with you through your list, but I feel that'd waste both of our time. The reason I wrote my blog was to point out a simple fact: unless you've been a server, it's not fair to stick labels on us such as "lazy" and "stupid" and "careless" because some of the complaints you wrote about are things we are told by corporate that we must do. Other things are our fault, yes, (and I agree the server should apologize for them no matter what), but the job is not as easy as you envision it being.
I'm not sure what you do for a living, but if I were to tell you you were doing it completely wrong and must be incompetent, you'd probably take offense to my judgment, especially if I'd never been in your shoes. To take the analogy one step further, imagine that I had a say in how much money you were given, and I gave you less because I believed you could have done a better job.
It's fair to expect good service, and that's what servers are trained to provide, but it's impossible to please everyone. You may not want an immediate refill, but someone else might. You might not want someone to bring the check after you've eaten dessert, but another customer might be insulted to be asked if they want anything else before the server prints the check. Not only that, there are restaurant protocols servers are probably adhering to--for example, I am required to bring the dessert menu before guests have finished their entrees (which was one of your complaints). I don't agree with it because I, too, think it makes customers feel rushed, but that's what I'm told to do.
Just as you don't want servers to make assumptions about you, it is fair that you not make assumptions about us or about our job.
Jennifer Currier
"but more importantly, it's against restaurant policy to leave a tray of dirty dishes on another table. I have to follow protocols first, customers second."
You don't have to put the dirty dishes on the tray at ALL, IDIOT! That's my point! Customers come FIRST, NOT SECOND IF YOU EXPECT THEM TO PAY YOU WELL!
You can just leave the dirty dishes on the tables without being on a tray and get the change from the bar. Did that ever occur to you? Anybody with common sense would do that and what if the customers asked you to do that before getting dirty dishes, if you didn't do what they asked, your manager wouldn't like that either nor would your customers tip you. You have to do what the customer says in order to get a tip.
I will from now on ask my server can they do that request first. I bet they will. You wanna bet?
"but if I were to tell you you were doing it completely wrong and must be incompetent, you'd probably take offense to my judgment, especially if I'd never been in your shoes."
No, if you saw a way to do it better and faster, I would LOVE for you to tell me. You have NO CLUE OF WTH you are talking about.
"To take the analogy one step further, imagine that I had a say in how much money you were given, and I gave you less because I believed you could have done a better job."
That's what a tipping job is. If you don't like it, there's the door. No one is making you stay at this type of job.
By staying, it gives you an INCENTIVE to work harder and try HARDER to get that better tip you so want.
"You may not want an immediate refill, but someone else might."
That's why you ask questions. You don't just assume anything.
"You might not want someone to bring the check after you've eaten dessert, but another customer might be insulted to be asked if they want anything else before the server prints the check."
If they are insulted by questions then they should****TELL YOU****** what they want, because the server isn't a mind reader; NO ONE IS!
"I am required to bring the dessert menu before guests have finished their entrees (which was one of your complaints)."
NO, I have NEVER complained about a dessert menu. Do you not have reading comprehension skills?
I have NEVER been brought a dessert menu unless we wanted dessert. This makes no sense what you are saying.
My complaints were that servers are bringing the check without offering dessert or even if you order a dessert, that they bring the check without asking first if you want something else such as we have ordered some bar drinks after a dessert before lots of times.
I am not quite sure where you get "dessert menu" from? That is beyond me? You obviously didn't *READ* anything I have said.
If the customer doesn't want it, they are granted their wish. It's not required if the customer doesn't want it. Ask your manager, they will 100% agree not to turn away a customer just because of something they want when they know the CUSTOMER RULES how their service goes since they are *PAYING* for their time there called a tip, which is called SERVICE!
I agree with everything except waiting until after the guest leave to take the tip if it is a credit card receipt. Guests sometimes are mathematically challenged and I am not a mind reader so I am courteous when I ask a guest about a ticket rather than have to chase them down because of a mistake they have made in writing down a tip. If your bill is 19.79 and you want to leave a 5.00 tip but fill in 24.00 in the total at the bottom that is not a $5.00 tip. That is $4.21 so I would like to verify before the guest leaves. It takes the guess work out of the equation.
Msgoodgirl
"I agree with everything except waiting until after the guest leave to take the tip if it is a credit card receipt. Guests sometimes are mathematically challenged and I am not a mind reader so I am courteous when I ask a guest about a ticket rather than have to chase them down because of a mistake they have made in writing down a tip. If your bill is 19.79 and you want to leave a 5.00 tip but fill in 24.00 in the total at the bottom that is not a $5.00 tip. That is $4.21 so I would like to verify before the guest leaves. It takes the guess work out of the equation."
Thanks for agreeing with me.
As far as the check issue is concerned, while I understand that, what's to guess? If someone didn't fill out the amount, but just the total, why don't you just take your $4.21 tip? I mean, by asking sounds like you would be SOLICITING MORE MONEY. I wouldn't ******EVER********* do what you are suggested. You are *ASKING* for more tip. That's not nice.
I 100% DISAGREE with you on that! You are just thinking about your selfish self and not about the customer.
I wouldn't solicit a tip. By asking about the tip at ****ALL**** is SOLICITING a tip. You are ASKING for your tip. I wouldn't say a word unless they didn't sign the credit card receipt, because that has to do with the restaurant's money that they were billed.
I wouldn't dare ask anyone about it. If they can't add, that's their issue. That means if they left me $14.21 for example, but meant to leave $5, that's their problem. I bet you wouldn't dare ask them about it then. If you would, you are stupid, because no server in their right mind would do that.
Just based on the article itself and most of the comments, you have never worked in the food service industry, nor in customer service. You shouldn't be giving "tips" for something you know nothing about. Advice should not come from the customer, they should come from other servers or food service employees who actually know how to provide good service. ALL food service employees have been customers dining out at other restaurants, so they know how they are treated and how they feel about certain mistakes from the customer's perspective. They are also able to aptly JUDGE those mistakes because they have food service experience and can delineate how to tip and how to react based on past experiences.
This is why Americans look like assholes in other countries, because they may put in hard work wherever they are employed, but if they have never worked in the food service industry before, they know absolutely nothing about accountability and customer service. If you want something to whine about, whine about a lack of apology from the manager or server if something goes wrong. That is the ONLY understandable complaint a guest can have. Otherwise, try living off of tips that you do not fairly receive from ingrates and then you can cry about serving standards as much as you please.
If you are not an expert in a field, you should not be offering advice. Simple enough.
kaywah
"you have never worked in the food service industry, nor in customer service."
I have worked in customer service for a little over 2 YEARS at a donut shop/diner as counter help. I worked double shifts, even triple shifts even before. YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF WTF you are talking about!
"You shouldn't be giving "tips" for something you know nothing about."
If I know "nothing" then WHY do I keep PROVING SERVERS AND EVEN *******MANAGERS******** WRONG about the ****MENU******/COUPONS and how to do the job correctly, huh?
I must know something that it keeps happening I know more than they do stupid bitch!
"Advice should not come from the customer, they should come from other servers or food service employees who actually know how to provide good service."
It should considering a customer knows how it feels to get certain things happen, which a lot of the servers do not. Most sure don't act like it and you know it.
"ALL food service employees have been customers dining out at other restaurants, so they know how they are treated and how they feel about certain mistakes from the customer's perspective."
NOPE, when I was 20yrs old(2 months from being 21yrs old) I started working at a donut shop/diner as counter help. I hardly ever ate out with my parents since my mom cooked a lot. Usually fast food if we did eat out or if we did go to a restaurant it was rare, but during non-busy times like 6a.m. in the morning at a Denny's for example where there wasn't but a few customers in the entire place. This is some of the things I did because I had lack of experience as a dine in customer at a non-fast food restaurant:
1. A lady complained her croissant was cold. I ignored her.
2. I made a man keep a raw donut.
3. Some lady dropped her box of donuts. I refused to get another one for her.
4. Someone dropped their orange juice(a kid), I made them pay for it.
5. Gave old decaf that a number of customers over a bunch of times asked me to warm it up in order to avoid making a new pot, which this had been there possibly the entire day in the thermos we put it in.
Understand how the people serving you may not have experience as a customer in a non-fast food restaurant?
Do you think those things are morally right I did? NO, they aren't. Today, I would NEVER do those things and I can't believe I did them honestly, but I didn't know how it felt to be that customer what it felt like. I didn't.
I bet you most servers have never had wrong overcharged price on their check at a restaurant nor would they even think of checking that since they are so trusting as the customer like idiots. I bet most servers never had their orders completely wrong or a server forgetting to put in their order or had a server not give them all their change back, etc.
"They are also able to aptly JUDGE those mistakes because they have food service experience and can delineate how to tip and how to react based on past experiences."
As I said, you know NOTHING about this. I had no customer experience and that's why I made a man keep a raw donut. I didn't think about it from the customer's perspective. I thought about the MONEY from the business's perspective that you bought it, you eat it.
"they know absolutely nothing about accountability and customer service."
I know more than you think I know.
"Otherwise, try living off of tips that you do not fairly receive from ingrates and then you can cry about serving standards as much as you please."
I would make A LOT MORE THAN YOU WOULD, because I am a hard worker. At the donut shop/diner in Jan. 1998 I started at min. wage(my very first job $5.15/hr, went up to $5.50 an hour (a 35 cents raise) the first week in March. I am a VERY HARD WORKER! I am not lazy and uncaring like *YOU* seem to be.
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kaywah
"If you are not an expert in a field, you should not be offering advice. Simple enough."
No, because I am much more of an expert that most of these DINGY ASS servers that serve us and you know it. Even the managers are stupid asses that don't know what their menus have on them. I have having to PROVE to them WHAT THE FUCKING MENU HAS ON IT. DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS? The servers don't know the menu a lot of times either.
I don't agree that you have to be an expert, because I know what I *SEE* as to how to do the job to *PREVENT* the issues from happening.
For example, bringing a wrong side dish to a customer from the same server that took the order. It's the server's fault 100% no matter what, because you can notice what side dish is on the plate. Another example, overcharges, you can see wrong numbers on a piece of paper that don't match the menu prices or extra items or wrong items just as the customer can.
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kaywah
"You shouldn't be giving "tips" for something you know nothing about."
Here's some stories that I have proven servers and managers wrong on:
The entire point of this story that happened to us was that our waitress didn't compare the *MENU* to *THE COMPUTER* to make sure she was ringing up the correct items:
My husband and I had gone to try a certain Mexican restaurant for our first time. I ordered the nachos with shredded chicken for the appetizer nachos. Look at this on the menu:
“NACHOS DE LA CASA – Choice of ground beef
or shredded chicken, topped w/lettuce, pico de gallo,
sour cream, jalapenos and beans……………………………………………..7.25
w/Steak ……………………………………………………………………………………8.25
w/Shrimp ……………………………………………………………………………….9.25”
http://andalemargaritasgrill.com/menu.html
This is from the internet menu and it is just like this on the menu inside the restaurant. I didn’t specially order something not on the menu. We received grilled chicken from our waitress that you can *SEE* it wasn’t right, but I didn’t know since I don’t work there you know. Our waitress should KNOW what shredded chicken LOOKS like since SHE WORKS THERE, WE DON’T on the NACHOS she BROUGHT OUT!! It was our FIRST time there, so we didn’t know what it was supposed to look like(I should have though, but didn’t think about what shredded is supposed to look like, now I feel stupid about that I didn’t know just by looking at it the first second it hit the table) . Since nachos you can SEE the chicken, at least some pieces that aren’t covered up without TOUCHING anything, she should and could have caught her error for ringing it up wrong by her WRITTEN ORDER as well as the menu comparing that plate of food to the MENU noticing that there wasn’t an option nor did the customer say “GRILLED” anything. An option not on the menu even I DID NOT ORDER., HOW PATHETIC can you get, you don’t agree?
My chimchanga I specifically said shredded chicken. I didn’t think it looked right when I broke it open, but I didn’t know how they shred the chicken they served.
When we got our check, we were overcharged on TWO items. One was the nachos charging us $8.25(grilled chicken) when there isn’t even an *OPTION* on the menu(notice above from the internet menu) for that and I didn’t ask for something not on the menu. That was a dollar overcharge. Then, the grilled chicken is 50 cents more than what I ordered. $9.25 I was supposed to be charged, which I was charged $9.75.
I presented the problems to her nicely; she didn’t say she was SORRY even. I would have said I was SO SORRY and asked a manager if they can take off a least a soft drink for messing up if I were the server in that situation. It wasn’t just 2 overcharges, but she messed up 2 food orders as well by ringing them up wrong(at least the nachos for sure were rung up wrong) and SERVING the nachos wrong since it was obvious.
When I told her about there wasn’t even an option for the grilled chicken on the menu she said “It was an accident”, which I told her, which is SO TRUE, she didn’t even “TRY”. She didn’t: A. BRING out the nachos OBVIOUSLY correct by comparing the written order and menu to the food B. Compared what she was RINGING UP to the menu and the written order C. Compared the check to the menu prices to what we ordered BEFORE she handed us. How can TWO mistakes on a check be an “ACCIDENT” when you had times where you could have caught the mistakes since the restaurant was almost empty( like one other table of 2 or 3 people at it and 2 or 3 people at the bar? All that time we ate, she could have CAUGHT her mistake, for REAL. Our check times were 1:34p.m., then the credit card receipt was 2:14pm., so in all that time, since the place was almost empty, she couldn’t have caught those errors? GET REAL!! That was pure laziness and lack of EFFORT to TRY to get things right.
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Kaywah Continued:
So try to tell me HOW can I not *KNOW* how to do the job when I see this kind of UNCARING SHIT from a server, huh? If anything, that has TAUGHT ME what grilled chicken looks like compared to shredded chicken, that I knew the MENU *BETTER* than SHE DID, that she put in the order wrong for the chimchunga I am assuming since we got overcharged on that as well, she put in the order wrong most likely for the nachos since we got overcharged on that item as well. I couldn’t FATHOM doing **ANY*** of these things she did that *SHE* ALONE CAUSED OUR PROBLEMS at our table. See how I would be a BETTER, NON-LAZY, and MORE CARING server than she was, huh?
A good, caring server would have:
1. Since she wrote down what I asked for “shredded chicken” if she didn’t know the menu, she should have compared the menu while ringing up the items so she would have known “DUH NO GRILLED CHICKEN OPTION ON THE MENU EVEN AND THE FACT THAT I DIDN’T SAY “GRILLED” so she should have compared the written order to the computer screen she was ringing up.)
2. Before she brought it out, let’s say she put the order in correctly. She should have known how they shredded their chicken since she worked there to decide not to bring it out since you could clearly see it wasn’t shredded chicken on top the nachos.
3. When she put the order in for the chimichunga, assuming she most likely didn’t put it in correctly that she overcharged me on that, so she could have compared the menu to that item she was ringing up.
4. When she got ready to bring the check, she should have compared the menu prices to the check as well as the written order and found the errors, got them fixed from the manager BEFORE giving us our check.
So that’s just one of MANY stories that’s proof. We stiffed her. she deserved it. She was VERY UNCARING and VERY, VERY, VERY LAZY. She could have caught everything except for the chicken inside my chimichunga since she would have had to cut that open. Everything else though was 100% HER FAULT. I really think though since my chimichunga was overcharged she rung it up wrong initially that she didn’t change it before she handed us the check.
ANOTHER STORY**************************
We went to this place called Mugshots:
http://www.mugshotsgrillandbar.com/
I ordered the Tucker's Pulled Pork Sandwich, which the menu inside actually had "Served with a heaping helping of Kayla's coleslaw."
Ok, being that I read the TO-GO MENU: http://www.mugshotsgrillandbar.com/T...xi-02-2010.pdf
It didn't state anything about the coleslaw. It does however on the non-to-go menu and the inside menu:
http://www.mugshotsgrillandbar.com/
Click on the tuckers pork sandwich, you will see where it has coleslaw. Well, anyway, when I got there, I was surprised the coleslaw came with the sandwich(was only going by the to-go menu when I had looked on line what I might want at this restaurant). I had told the waitress I didn't want the coleslaw that I didn't like coleslaw. I ordered my fries without seasoning or salt, not overdone. So I mentioned fries when I ordered.
When the bill came, it had "Substitute fries 50 cents." I questioned her, she was like "That sandwich only has one side." I was like "All of our gourmet sandwiches are served with brew city’s beer battered fries …" I cannot believe she *ARGUED* with ***EXACT WORDING ON THE MENU****. That's just unbelievable. There's no physical proof she's right, there is physical proof I was right though.
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kaywah continued:
I LITERALLY HAD TO READ THIS TO HER 2-3 TIMES for the STUPID ASS BITCH to get it through her thick skull that I was *PAYING* for the damn fries in the price of the item. "I even told her "ALL" like that even, REPEATING ********ALL GOURMET SANDWICHES ARE SERVED WITH FRIES, ALL GOURMET SANDWICHES ARE SERVED WITH FRIES.... I should have said "DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD *ALL* MEANS IN THE DICTIONARY, I MEAN SERIOUSLY?
Even the manager on duty was so stupid and I even proved him wrong even. He finally admitted I was right, because I was. At first, he said I was wrong, then I proved him wrong with the menu. How about that one for ya and I had *NEVER* gone there in my *LIFETIME* even. HOW ABOUT THAT ONE FOR YA, huh?
We stiffed her. She didn't ONCE say she was sorry when she was in the wrong. That was my first and ONLY time we have *EVER* gone there even. I shouldn't have had to explain exact WORDING to her like she couldn't *READ* or something. She was a DITSY STUPID ASS WAITRESS and the manager was even dumber not to know the menu *BETTER* than the servers even.
I had gone by the menu when ordering and the menu stated "ALL SANDWICHES ARE SERVED WITH FRIES." That means what it states.
I got fries without a problem, because I mentioned my certain modifications for my fries as to why I didn't know about it before bill time. See if I would have ordered it saying "No coleslaw" and not mentioned fries cooked and prepared a certain way I would have only received the sandwich. THERE I would have been some pissed. I *READ* the *MENU* and it stated I would get fries. Understand how you have to *KNOW* the menu to get things correct, huh?
My point is, I *READ* the **************WORDS ON THE MENU THAT I GOT *FRIES* for my money in the price of the item(any of those sandwiches).
It is strange, but this restaurant charges you for substituting side dishes unlike most restaurants.
I talked to managers since and they agreed with me, because you cannot disprove WRITTEN PROOF, you just can't.
That sandwich according to the menu(inside and the one that isn't the to-go menu on the website)includes two side dishes. That's what the menu has. She was telling me that this sandwich only had one, but that's *NOT* what the menu states. The menu states *ALL* sandwiches are served with fries and it's even under the same section even.
I KNEW MORE than the stupid staff members. YES I did.
We stiffed, because she was a bitch about it. You don't argue with a customer period even if they would maybe be wrong. Since I was right, I cannot understand for the life of me why she tried to argue with me about 50 cents. Costs her entire tip for 50 cents. If I would have been the server and the customer would have been wrong about something, I'd rather take 55 cents(tax I would include) and just forfeit 55 cents of MY OWN MONEY so I could get a nice tip instead. This was STUPID to ARGUE with me over 50 cents and she was 100% wrong. What an IDIOT!! She was VERY STUPID, SHE REALLY WAS. Can't argue with *WRITTEN PROOF* on a menu.
You don't see how I know the MENU AND HOW TO DO THE JOB BETTER THAN THE SERVERS SO THIS SHIT DOESN'T *********GET********** TO THE CUSTOMERS IDIOT? I am A VERY DETAILED ORIENTED PERSON AND YOU HAVE TO BE THAT TO BE A A SERVER!! Can you believe in BOTH situations that was our *FIRST* and ***********ONLY********** TIME ********EVER************** THERE but I KNEW *************MORE********** than the servers, huh? That's because I took*****EFFORT******* TO ****READ****** THE MENUS. I also know well DUH if it's not on the menu and the person ordered shredded how can it be grilled or that I could ring up something wrong or that you can see on top of nachos what GRILLED CHICKEN looks like.
These are just SOME of the stories. I can tell you more as well.
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kaywah continued:
Another story:
My husband and I went to a restaurant’s lounge area that we hadn’t been to since March(towards the end of the month back in 2009 I believe), this was July 4th. They had recently decreased their flavored martini prices. They had been having this plaque at the front of the lounge when you walk in that always had half-priced martinis. They also had a menu holder advertisement that had $5 martinis. Some of the martinis has lowered prices on the menu. So what happened, I showed the bartender. He didn’t realize this and even the FREAKIN MANAGER DIDN’T NOTICE. He was on the phone telling someone they need to remove the plaque.
Now don’t you think that’s a bit on the *RIDICULOUS* side that *I* KNEW MORE THAN THE WORKERS AND I HADN’T SET FOOT IN THE PLACE SINCE MARCH, HUH?
I KNOW HOW TO DO THE JOB BETTER THAN THESE IDIOTS, EVEN MANAGERS EVEN!
Another story:
I have experience as a customer that has had their orders wrong and many other things that have gone wrong throughout my dining experience.
For example, a waiter we had brought out another table’s food and our food, then put the tray on top the tray jack. He aimlessly handed out entrées, which he put in front of my husband fried shrimp w/fries when my husband ordered crawfish au gratin w/baked potato. We had seen him handing out these entrées and NOT *ONCE* had gone back to his *WRITTEN ORDER* to compare the plates of food to which table had which entrée. Turns out, he admitted he grabbed the wrong one from the kitchen. The thing is, he could have easily *CAUGHT* his mistake by doing a simply GLANCE at which table had which plate of food, it’s not time consuming to do that, it’s like 3-5 second glance at his paper is all it would have taken, but he was too lazy and uncaring to do that as well as I guess he did it too to act like this was fast food when it’s not that he didn’t have to rush like that.
I truly believe he most likely also didn’t compare his written orders to the plates of food in the kitchen as well. The main thing though is that he could have caught his mistake and didn’t *TRY HIS ****BEST***** to get it correct to our table. He looked like an IDIOT handing our table(ONLY ME AND MY HUSBAND) a completely wrong item.
Another restaurant experience at another restaurant also where I had ordered bbq chicken nachos as my meal. Our waiter brought out food out. He tried to hand us quesdillas. Turns out, he eventually(after I had to get up to ask where my food was), admitted he pressed the wrong button, but he was TOO STUPID, UNCARING, AND VERY LAZY to compare his written order to the food, then could have easily noticed his mistake so then he wouldn’t have wasted the time he took to bring that quesdillas to us or ask us about it even. He didn’t ask for a comp as I would have. He didn’t profusely apologize like say “SO” sorry as I would have, because I would have felt bad I ruin people’s outings.
Another experience at another restaurant, we had a waitress that brought my husband a cup of bisque when he ordered a bowl. You know what a bowl and a cup looks like with NOTHING in it.
That's just some more stories, I have more even to prove I know how to do the job better. A SERVER IS A MISTAKE PREVENTER FOR MOST ISSUES, because they can get *MOST* things corrected ****************BEFORE************** they bring them to you.
I have PLENTY of more stories. These are just a few. My point is, ***********I*********************** KNEW MORE THAN THE FUCKING SERVERS AND EVEN DUMB LAZY ASS MANAGERS EVEN ABOUT THE MENUS AND HOW TO DO THE JOB!
WHO WAS THE ****EXPERT**** IN THESE SITUATIONS? Wasn't it *********ME*************?
Megan
"You are A FUCKING IDIOT"
HOW when I have proven servers and managers even wrong time and time again? It just keeps happening that I know the menu, the signs, and how to do the better than the servers even.
"DID YOU REALIZE THAT HALF OF YOUR FUCKING TIPS ARE AGAINST CORPORATE POLICY?"
They aren't. The chain restaurants especially all follow what I want just about, like 99.9% of them. WHY? They want us as repeat customers, that's why. Half of the tips, more like NONE! You can do what the customer wants. That’s how it works!
I already know about the extra napkins thing, but that's only *SOME* managers, because at restaurants like Chili's I frequent, I have them give me napkins automatically LOTS of them too. I have ZERO PROBLEMS with getting extra napkins without asking for them< *******ZERO***********>).
It's not company policy, because I get what I want. Read and weep JT's response about that I suggested he asked at the greeting if customers want refills without asking and he decided to give up. WHY? Because I proved him wrong.
http://www.stuckserving.com/waiter-story-here-is-a-nice-comment-form-the-squidoo-lens-about-the-waiter-tip-anybody-feel-the-same-way/comment-page-2#comments
He told me: "Obviously if a customer says they don’t want one, I am not expected to bring one.” Then when I told him: “It’s not against any rules to ask if the customers want refills without being asked, so why not do it to please ALL, considering, it’s not required if the customers tell you they DON’T want it, huh?” Then he said this: “I’m done, please never come into Chili’s if you’re from the New Orleans area. I’m absolutely not kidding.”
So what does this tell you? It tells you that you won’t get fussed if the customer doesn’t want that type of service. For example, if I told my server when I got greeted “I change up soft drinks at times, can I please get asked for each refill?” The server ********HAS TO ABIDE BY WHAT ****************I********************* WANT, THE CUSTOMER MORON! YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID! At the Chili’s I go to regularly for YEARS since 2005 or so, I get servers that do what I want. There have been servers I requested for YEARS that did what I wanted. The managers are FINE with me getting what *I* want for *MY* money. Even some new servers that I have never had before still do what I want and ask each time. They don’t order for me. I don’t tell them either. They may not do it just because of risking wasting time or just know from others, I don’t know? The point is, those servers don’t “HAVE” to give refills without asking. It’s not a requirement, it’s NOT! If the customer doesn’t want it, they don’t have to take it. All you have to do is at the greeting ask if the customers want refills without asking. This way, you KNOW! You don’t have to. WHY JT decided not to write back? Because I PROVED HIM WRONG IS WHY! He would have said he couldn’t ask that, but he *CAN*, because there’s NO SUCH RULE THAT YOU CAN’T ASK THE CUSTOMERS IF THEY WANT THAT TYPE OF *SERVICE*, ONLY that you don’t ask for each refill, even then, it says “Silent Refills when possible.” Doesn’t say that you *HAVE* to do it, does it?
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You are a MORON if you think they do. The corporate wants the customers to spend money, which we have spent THOUSANDS of dollars at Chili’s over the years, THOUSANDS on food, alcohol, etc. They don’t want to lose our business for being control freaks when it’s *********OUR MONEY******** that rules the service, NOT corporate! So YEAH, I PROVED YOU THE FUCK WRONG UNCARING ASSHOLE FUCKING BITCH! FUCK YOU! I hope you get what you don’t want for your money and see how *YOU* feel then BITCH! FUCK YOU AND YOUR MONEY!
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Megan - Continued:
“SAME WITH THE CONDIMANTS THAT ARE NOT 100% FULL. THAT IS NOT UNDER THE SERVERS CONTOL. THAT IS THE KITCHENS CONTROL, AND ALSO THE COMPANY.”
It is under the server's control considering the places I regularly go; they have NO PROBLEM filling them up all the way up. WHY? I TELL THEM WHEN I ORDER that I want them filled ALL THE WAY UP. THEY LISTEN! Even at ONE restaurant Longhorn Steakhouse I have had this issue with, they STILL gave it to me eventually being that I asked for it twice. What happened at Longhorn is that I asked for 2 sides of mayo to be filled all the way up which I do this at ALL restaurants just about and only Longhorn’s servers had an issue with it. Instead of the waitress telling me, she blamed it on the kitchen saying “THEY” didn’t know what I meant, when she has EYES she can *SEE* if containers are full or not. I sent it back before my food even came even, because I had asked for the condiments ahead of time. Did it do any good to deny me of the amount I wanted? NO, I STILL GOT IT ANYWAY STUPID ASS IGNORANT KNOW-IT-ALL WANT –A – BE! That’s why she should have just ordered 4 sides of mayo so I could get my 2 FULL sides. That way, she wouldn’t have had more work and a bad tip because she decided to blame others for *HER* serving me an incorrect thing to my table.
At Chili’s for example, I haven’t had ONE PROBLEM, NOT ONE with getting the amount I want for my money. Even other restaurants as well. Now, in the past, when Applebee’s had Remoulade sauce, I had an issue with them not filling it, but I also didn’t ask for it filled either. When I ask for it filled, 99.9% of the time I get it filled. Also, most of the time ranches are filled as well. I also will get the amount when I ask a second time for it if I do have an issue, which most places I don’t. What I do at some restaurants is I order 4 sides of mayo and fill up my containers for 2. This way, I got what I want.
Also, you are a moron. We had a waitress at Texas Roadhouse that gave us half-sides a bunch to equal to the amount of mayo I asked for. That's right, you can’t fill it, but still give me the same amount.
For example, Jane Doe wants a side of mayo, you order 2 in the computer so you can get their FULL SIDE.
Also, you misspelled condiments. If you want to tell someone they are an idiot, you might want to spell check your work.
“IT IS OUR COMPANY POLICY TO MAKE SMALL TALK WITH GUESTS”
The WHEN you can change like you don’t have to make small talk *BEFORE* I even get to order. Be *****CONSIDERATE******* of our HUNGER, THIRST, AND TIME!
“IF YOU DONT WANT TO TALK, DONT GO FUCKING OUT TO EAT.”
I want to talk to the servers that are good that I know, NOT people like you. If you want small talk, GO BE A BARTENDER, because servers when they are busy have NO TIME to chit chat.
“SAME WITH BREAD/CHIPS AND SALSA. ITS COMPANY POLICY YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO INFORM THEM, BECAUSE ITS SUPPOSED TO BE A SURPRISE.”
No, you can still *ASK* even if you have to greet with chips or bread, you can ask *BEFORE* you take it off the tray MORON! Also, places like Outback and Red Lobster don’t greet you with bread, therefore, there’s an opportunity to *ASK* if the customers want bread/biscuits or not.
”YOU SEEM LIKE THE ONLY IDIOT IN THIS SITUATION.”
You seem to be the only idiot in this situation, because I know MORE THAN YOU DO! I am not stupid like you are. I get what I want for my money. Now I may have to ask twice at some places like Longhorn Steakhouse, but I got my 2 sides of mayo filled ******ALLLLLLL THE WAY UP**************.
You sound VERY LAZY and VERY UNCARING!
Amanda Willette - Continued:
When I told her about there wasn’t even an option for the grilled chicken on the menu she said “It was an accident”, which I told her, which is SO TRUE, she didn’t even “TRY”. She didn’t: A. BRING out the nachos OBVIOUSLY correct by comparing the written order and menu to the food B. Compared what she was RINGING UP to the menu and the written order C. Compared the check to the menu prices to what we ordered BEFORE she handed us. How can TWO mistakes on a check be an “ACCIDENT” when you had times where you could have caught the mistakes since the restaurant was almost empty( like one other table of 2 or 3 people at it and 2 or 3 people at the bar? All that time we ate, she could have CAUGHT her mistake, for REAL. Our check times were 1:34p.m., then the credit card receipt was 2:14pm., so in all that time, since the place was almost empty, she couldn’t have caught those errors? GET REAL!! That was pure laziness and lack of EFFORT to TRY to get things right.
So try to tell me HOW can I not *KNOW* how to do the job when I see this kind of UNCARING SHIT from a server, huh? If anything, that has TAUGHT ME what grilled chicken looks like compared to shredded chicken, that I knew the MENU *BETTER* than SHE DID, that she put in the order wrong for the chimchunga I am assuming since we got overcharged on that as well, she put in the order wrong most likely for the nachos since we got overcharged on that item as well. I couldn’t FATHOM doing **ANY*** of these things she did that *SHE* ALONE CAUSED OUR PROBLEMS at our table. See how I would be a BETTER, NON-LAZY, and MORE CARING server than she was, huh?
A good, caring server would have:
1. Since she wrote down what I asked for “shredded chicken” if she didn’t know the menu, she should have compared the menu while ringing up the items so she would have known “DUH NO GRILLED CHICKEN OPTION ON THE MENU EVEN AND THE FACT THAT I DIDN’T SAY “GRILLED” so she should have compared the written order to the computer screen she was ringing up.)
2. Before she brought it out, let’s say she put the order in correctly. She should have known how they shredded their chicken since she worked there to decide not to bring it out since you could clearly see it wasn’t shredded chicken on top the nachos.
3. When she put the order in for the chimichanga, assuming she most likely didn’t put it in correctly that she overcharged me on that, so she could have compared the menu to that item she was ringing up.
4. When she got ready to bring the check, she should have compared the menu prices to the check as well as the written order and found the errors, got them fixed from the manager BEFORE giving us our check.
So that’s just one of MANY stories that’s proof. We stiffed her. she deserved it. She was VERY UNCARING and VERY, VERY, VERY LAZY. She could have caught everything except for the chicken inside my chimichunga since she would have had to cut that open. Everything else though was 100% HER FAULT. I really think though since my chimichanga was overcharged she rung it up wrong initially that she didn’t change it before she handed us the check.
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Amanda Willette - Continued:
We went to this place called Mugshots:
http://www.mugshotsgrillandbar.com/
I ordered the Tucker's Pulled Pork Sandwich, which the menu inside actually had "Served with a heaping helping of Kayla's coleslaw."
Ok, being that I read the TO-GO MENU: http://www.mugshotsgrillandbar.com/T...xi-02-2010.pdf
It didn't state anything about the coleslaw. It does however on the non-to-go menu and the inside menu:
http://www.mugshotsgrillandbar.com/
Click on the tuckers pork sandwich, you will see where it has coleslaw. Well, anyway, when I got there, I was surprised the coleslaw came with the sandwich(was only going by the to-go menu when I had looked on line what I might want at this restaurant). I had told the waitress I didn't want the coleslaw that I didn't like coleslaw. I ordered my fries without seasoning or salt, not overdone. So I mentioned fries when I ordered.
When the bill came, it had "Substitute fries 50 cents." I questioned her, she was like "That sandwich only has one side." I was like "All of our gourmet sandwiches are served with brew city’s beer battered fries …" I cannot believe she *ARGUED* with ***EXACT WORDING ON THE MENU****. That's just unbelievable. There's no physical proof she's right, there is physical proof I was right though.
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Amanda Willette - Continued:
I LITERALLY HAD TO READ THIS TO HER 2-3 TIMES for the STUPID ASS BITCH to get it through her thick skull that I was *PAYING* for the damn fries in the price of the item. "I even told her "ALL" like that even, REPEATING ********ALL GOURMET SANDWICHES ARE SERVED WITH FRIES, ALL GOURMET SANDWICHES ARE SERVED WITH FRIES.... I should have said "DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD *ALL* MEANS IN THE DICTIONARY, I MEAN SERIOUSLY?
Even the manager on duty was so stupid and I even proved him wrong even. He finally admitted I was right, because I was. At first, he said I was wrong, then I proved him wrong with the menu. How about that one for ya and I had *NEVER* gone there in my *LIFETIME* even. HOW ABOUT THAT ONE FOR YA, huh?
We stiffed her. She didn't ONCE say she was sorry when she was in the wrong. That was my first and ONLY time we have *EVER* gone there even. I shouldn't have had to explain exact WORDING to her like she couldn't *READ* or something. She was a DITSY STUPID ASS WAITRESS and the manager was even dumber not to know the menu *BETTER* than the servers even.
I had gone by the menu when ordering and the menu stated "ALL SANDWICHES ARE SERVED WITH FRIES." That means what it states.
I got fries without a problem, because I mentioned my certain modifications for my fries as to why I didn't know about it before bill time. See if I would have ordered it saying "No coleslaw" and not mentioned fries cooked and prepared a certain way I would have only received the sandwich. THERE I would have been some pissed. I *READ* the *MENU* and it stated I would get fries. Understand how you have to *KNOW* the menu to get things correct, huh?
My point is, I *READ* the **************WORDS ON THE MENU THAT I GOT *FRIES* for my money in the price of the item(any of those sandwiches).
It is strange, but this restaurant charges you for substituting side dishes unlike most restaurants.
I talked to managers since and they agreed with me, because you cannot disprove WRITTEN PROOF, you just can't.
That sandwich according to the menu(inside and the one that isn't the to-go menu on the website)includes two side dishes. That's what the menu has. She was telling me that this sandwich only had one, but that's *NOT* what the menu states. The menu states *ALL* sandwiches are served with fries and it's even under the same section even.
I KNEW MORE than the stupid staff members. YES I did.
We stiffed, because she was a bitch about it. You don't argue with a customer period even if they would maybe be wrong. Since I was right, I cannot understand for the life of me why she tried to argue with me about 50 cents. Costs her entire tip for 50 cents. If I would have been the server and the customer would have been wrong about something, I'd rather take 55 cents(tax I would include) and just forfeit 55 cents of MY OWN MONEY so I could get a nice tip instead. This was STUPID to ARGUE with me over 50 cents and she was 100% wrong. What an IDIOT!! She was VERY STUPID, SHE REALLY WAS. Can't argue with *WRITTEN PROOF* on a menu.
You don't see how I know the MENU AND HOW TO DO THE JOB BETTER THAN THE SERVERS SO THIS SHIT DOESN'T *********GET********** TO THE CUSTOMERS IDIOT? I am A VERY DETAILED ORIENTED PERSON AND YOU HAVE TO BE THAT TO BE A A SERVER!! Can you believe in BOTH situations that was our *FIRST* and ***********ONLY********** TIME ********EVER************** THERE but I KNEW *************MORE********** than the servers, huh? That's because I took*****EFFORT******* TO ****READ****** THE MENUS. I also know well DUH if it's not on the menu and the person ordered shredded how can it be grilled or that I could ring up something wrong or that you can see on top of nachos what GRILLED CHICKEN looks like.
These are just SOME of the stories. I can tell you more as well.
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Amanda Willette - Continued:
Another story:
My husband and I went to a restaurant’s lounge area that we hadn’t been to since March(towards the end of the month back in 2009 I believe), this was July 4th. They had recently decreased their flavored martini prices. They had been having this plaque at the front of the lounge when you walk in that always had half-priced martinis. They also had a menu holder advertisement that had $5 martinis. Some of the martinis has lowered prices on the menu. So what happened, I showed the bartender. He didn’t realize this and even the FREAKIN MANAGER DIDN’T NOTICE. He was on the phone telling someone they need to remove the plaque.
Now don’t you think that’s a bit on the *RIDICULOUS* side that *I* KNEW MORE THAN THE WORKERS AND I HADN’T SET FOOT IN THE PLACE SINCE MARCH, HUH?
I KNOW HOW TO DO THE JOB BETTER THAN THESE IDIOTS, EVEN MANAGERS EVEN!
Another story:
I have experience as a customer that has had their orders wrong and many other things that have gone wrong throughout my dining experience.
For example, a waiter we had brought out another table’s food and our food, then put the tray on top the tray jack. He aimlessly handed out entrées, which he put in front of my husband fried shrimp w/fries when my husband ordered crawfish au gratin w/baked potato. We had seen him handing out these entrées and NOT *ONCE* had gone back to his *WRITTEN ORDER* to compare the plates of food to which table had which entrée. Turns out, he admitted he grabbed the wrong one from the kitchen. The thing is, he could have easily *CAUGHT* his mistake by doing a simply GLANCE at which table had which plate of food, it’s not time consuming to do that, it’s like 3-5 second glance at his paper is all it would have taken, but he was too lazy and uncaring to do that as well as I guess he did it too to act like this was fast food when it’s not that he didn’t have to rush like that.
I truly believe he most likely also didn’t compare his written orders to the plates of food in the kitchen as well. The main thing though is that he could have caught his mistake and didn’t *TRY HIS ****BEST***** to get it correct to our table. He looked like an IDIOT handing our table(ONLY ME AND MY HUSBAND) a completely wrong item.
Another restaurant experience at another restaurant also where I had ordered bbq chicken nachos as my meal. Our waiter brought out food out. He tried to hand us quesdillas. Turns out, he eventually(after I had to get up to ask where my food was), admitted he pressed the wrong button, but he was TOO STUPID, UNCARING, AND VERY LAZY to compare his written order to the food, then could have easily noticed his mistake so then he wouldn’t have wasted the time he took to bring that quesdillas to us or ask us about it even. He didn’t ask for a comp as I would have. He didn’t profusely apologize like say “SO” sorry as I would have, because I would have felt bad I ruin people’s outings.
Another experience at another restaurant, we had a waitress that brought my husband a cup of bisque when he ordered a bowl. You know what a bowl and a cup looks like with NOTHING in it.
That's just some more stories, I have more even to prove I know how to do the job better. A SERVER IS A MISTAKE PREVENTER FOR MOST ISSUES, because they can get *MOST* things corrected ****************BEFORE************** they bring them to you.
I have PLENTY of more stories. These are just a few. My point is, ***********I*********************** KNEW MORE THAN THE FUCKING SERVERS AND EVEN DUMB LAZY ASS MANAGERS EVEN ABOUT THE MENUS AND HOW TO DO THE JOB!
WHO WAS THE ****EXPERT**** IN THESE SITUATIONS? Wasn't it *********ME*************?
I agree with some things in this post, while others are kind of ridiculous. We are human beings watching over anywhere from 1-40 people at a time, we make mistakes and it is hard to keep everything as organized as it sounds when you are writing it on this blog. Different foods take longer than others, we have to time things differently, some tables are ready while others aren't, if two tables decide they are ready at the same time and we ring them in at the same times then we obviously need someone to help us run them out. At my restaurant whatever server is in the back runs the food, whoever see's it come up prepares it then runs it. It's called team work. Not bad service.
But yes, you come serve one Friday night in my restaurant and you will be in tears. Not only are we taking your orders, we're running food left and right carrying heavy trays, preparing food, stocking, taking to go orders on the phone (while we are trying to greet tables) busing our own tables, refilling drinks, making sure everyones needs are met, doing what the managers are telling you to do, emptying dish (carrying heavy dishes from one side of the restaurant to the other), getting to go boxes, filling chips and salsa, getting drinks from the bar, getting ice, making tea. Basically running around like a maniac while people like you call us slackers. We work our asses off, that's for sure.
And I have given the wrong meal to the wrong table because there is a person standing in the back calling out table numbers and handing you trays and ordering you to go, and when that happens I do address the problem right away and bring back the correct order. Plus, I would never over charge anyone for anything. I always offer to bag fresh chips and salsa if they ordered it and fresh drinks to go (I mean, drinks are expensive)
Tiffany Sansevero
"while people like you call us slackers. We work our asses off, that's for sure."
No you just ((((((((((((((ADMITTED))))))))))))))) you don't right here:
"And I have given the wrong meal to the wrong table because there is a person standing in the back calling out table numbers and handing you trays"
Person standing in the back you put ZERO TRUST into because that's not how teamwork works. You don't *EVER* trust someone else for something*(YOU)* can notice yourself.
It's called *SELF-RESPONSIBILITY* for ***********YOUR ACTIONS**************** by instead of just bringing it out, you ask "Can I see the ticket please?" Then *YOU* verify WTF you are bringing out. Working your ass off is actually ********TRYING*********** to get things right to the customer, which you aren’t. You admitted it. YOU ARE RIDICULOUS. As if you’d want your food wrong, BS!
You are responsible for what *YOU* are handing out for anything obvious. If it’s the wrong food, unless the server that took the order put the order in wrong, that’s ***********100% YOUR FAULT**********! STOP BLAMING IT ON SOMEONE ELSE THAT DIDN’T LAST HAVE EYES ON IT! You had eyes on it last, hands on the plate last, therefore that means it’s your fault. Just like if you left your own kitchen at home with fries instead of onion rings, you can only blame yourself if the order was correctly written.
So what they give you a table number? WHO CARES, you are responsible for what’s in your hands for any errors you don’t have to touch the food to notice the mistake or mistakes *UNLESS* the order was put in wrong.
You don’t work your ass off, because you aren’t verifying the order. Any server that isn’t the server that took the order that brings out completely wrong food if the order was put in correctly is at fault for doing so. How can you blame a person when you aren’t ****************TRYING********************* to ************HENCE THE NAME OF THE FUCKING JOB, **************************SERVE************************* IT TO THE CUSTOMER AS CORRECTLY AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN! There is NOTHING ridiculous about comparing the ticket or computer screen order to the food for obvious errors, NOTHING!
Also, if you bring the wrong meal to the wrong table, you may want to learn at *DIAGRAM* of the restaurant so you know table 6 is near the door for example. I had that happen at Outback where a waitress just this year tried to give us food for a table the complete OPPOSITE way. WHY? LAZINESS and BEING UNCARING is why. She could have *TRIED* to find out WHERE she was going, but didn't just like you being lazy and uncaring on the job.
You act like the job is just “SERVE-N-RUN”, but that’s not teamwork you MORON! Teamwork is working *************TOGETHER**************, NOT ALONE to get the order correctly to the table as much as you possibly can. You aren’t doing that, you admitted it.
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Tiffany Sansevero - Continued:
http://archive.slickdeals.net/f/600104-thoughts-on-tipping-in-restaurants?sduid=249745&p=7915572&highlight=springs1#post7915572
Demosthenes9 said: “Absolutely right. As a waiter, it was ultimately my responsibility to ensure that EVERYTHING was correct with your food. Cooks would plate up entrees and the expediter would "build tickets" by collecting the correct entrees, adding the side items, and placing the plates on a tray to complete the order. (at least that's how it worked just about everywhere I have been). At that point, the waiter SHOULD check each plate to see that the order is correct to include having the correct side items. Waiter should also make sure that the food is still hot and didn't "die in the window" while waiting for the order to be filled. Lastly, a waiter who actually knows what he is doing can simply look at your steak and tell with some accuracy whether it is cooked correctly or not. (There are of course exceptions where steaks are "borderline", like right between medium rare and medium, or between medium and mid well.) I have had any number of cooks yell at me because I told them to recook a steak before I even took it to the table. It doesn't take a genius to see a somewhat burnt steak sitting on a plate and to figure out that it ISN'T medium rare as ordered.) The funny thing is, if waiters took the time to pay attention to the little details like the one's Spring mentioned, they would actually have MORE time on their hands to take care of customers. Afterall, it takes maybe 30 seconds to check over an order and make sure it's correct. Failure to do so means that you now have to go all the way back to the kitchen, argue with a cook, get a replacement side item, then carry it back out to the table. That time could have been better spent taking care of other tables instead.”
A waiter agrees with me, so what do you have to say about that, huh?
http://www.twopeasinabucket.com/mb.asp?cmd=display&thread_id=2306026&pg=2
jenettycakes76 said: “If you request no pickles, regardless of where they are served on the plate, then you should have received no pickles. Again this is a combo of the kitchen & server to make sure you do not receive them.”
A waitress agrees with me as well. What do you have to say about that LAZY AND UNCARING EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING, HUH?
So if that was your food, you’d want the server that isn’t your server not to give a shit about what’s on the plate or interrupt your conversations or give someone else your food? YEAH RIGHT, BULL FUCKING SHIT! You would want a *************CARING, HARD WORKER*************** to check over the ticket or computer screen order **************************BEFORE******************************* they left the kitchen. You are a slacker. You aren’t a hard worker. Hard workers VERIFY things *BEFORE* they give them to the customer for things they can notice without touching food to notice any mistakes.
You are the one that’s ridiculous thinking that’s good service to treat people like dirt bringing them an UNKNOWN ITEM just because the person in the kitchen says bring it to a table, SO FUCKING WHAT, you don’t TRUST THEM, YOU TRUST ***********YOURSELF*********** IDIOT, otherwise, you look like a lazy, uncaring idiot to the customer just like the servers do that do this. Just like that waitress did at Outback. Do you realize how many times other servers bring us food that’s not ours or others tried to give our food to someone else just because they didn’t take our order doesn’t mean they can’t know the order unless the order was put in wrong?
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Tiffany Sansevero - Continued:
"while others are kind of ridiculous"
No, they aren't and you know it. What is ridiculous? To *CARE* about what you are doing? To TRY YOUR BEST?
"we make mistakes"
Yes, but do you put forth *EFFORT* to PREVENT THEM? You don't when you bring out another server's food, you ****ADMITTED**** that. It's not a mistake if you didn't verify the ticket or computer screen order to notice if it was correct food or not.
“Different foods take longer than others, we have to time things differently, some tables are ready while others aren't,”
I already know this already. Why are you trying to explain to me *COMMON SENSE*, huh? What does this have to do with anything I have said?
“we ring them in at the same times”
It's IMPOSSIBLE to ring it in at the same time. You do one, then you do another. One of them will be in the kitchen before the other beating the other one in. You don’t know much, do you?
Also, why are you ringing them in at the same time unless the next people call you over right after you just got an order? If they called you over, I understand, but if they didn’t, you shouldn’t be going to the next table unless you have any previously asked for stuff. You should be going to the computer to put the order into the computer for that table.
"It's called team work. Not bad service."
No, that's not team work. Team work is asking to see or grab the ticket yourself or read the computer screen order, compare what is on the order to what is on the plates for obvious errors. It's not team work if you aren't verifying what is in your hands. That's being lazy and uncaring on the job. That’s also being very LAZY!
"drinks are expensive."
NO, soft drinks and iced tea aren't. That's why we get not charged LOTS of times when we go out to eat for soft drinks or iced tea. It's an OVERHEAD cost. It's not expensive. It actually cost the restaurant CENTS compared to things like condiments. Condiments cost A LOT MORE for the company. Ask any manager, they will tell you. You sure don’t know much for being a server, you really don’t.
“Plus, I would never over charge anyone for anything.”
So you truly compare the menu prices to the check prices *BEFORE* you give the customer their check? I bet you don’t, do you? If you don’t, then how would you know if you are overcharging someone or not, huh? Also, we have had all kinds of overcharges from extra items, wrongly rung up items(for example a side salad without an entrée, but I order an entrée), and wrong overcharged prices where the menu prices didn’t match the check prices. Your job is if there is a wrong price get the manager to fix it *BEFORE* you give us our check. That’s what working your ass off is as well. You don’t check the food for errors for other tables that aren’t yours, so most likely you aren’t checking the prices, am I right? How do you know you haven’t overcharged anyone? Plus, do you give correct change for the people that pay with cash? As I said in my blog, we have gotten a waiter that decided not to return all of our change. It was because of laziness and selfishness.
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Tiffany Sansevero - Continued:
“while people like you call us slackers. We work our asses off, that's for sure.”
So remember when you say you work your ass off how you aren’t BEGINNING to do what you are supposed to ****ALL***** DO! You are doing a HALF-FAST JOB! You aren’t working hard. You are lazy and you are a VERY UNCARING human being! As I said, as if that were your family at the table, you sure wouldn’t want your food be given to someone else or someone interrupting you all. Maybe you don’t care about being interrupted, but I hate the laziness part of it, because that cost the server part of their tip, so you are affecting OTHER SERVER’S TIPS by doing what you are doing. You don’t care though. You just care about yourself! You are a slacker. Anyone that doesn’t verify the food *BEFORE* leaving the kitchen is a lazy ass slacker uncaring asshole that doesn’t care about anyone. You aren’t working your ass off. Working your ass off is checking the food for obvious errors, checking the prices against the menu for overcharges, etc.
I don't get WHY you want to blame someone else for *YOU* leaving the kitchen with the wrong food.
"And I have given the wrong meal to the wrong table because there is a person standing in the back calling out table numbers and handing you trays"
Again, you are the STUPID ONE that ***********DECIDES************ ALL ON YOUR *********FUCKING LAZY ASS UNCARING OWN****** TO TRUST THEM RATHER THAN FINDING OUT IF THAT'S CORRECT OR NOT!
You can't even trust the managers. We have had wrong prices MANY TIMES on our checks that had to get corrected. We had 2 times at Outback just to say since we were talking about Outback. My husband ordered his entrée as it came $12.99 on the menu. When we got our check it had $13.99 listed. We got it fixed. The thing is our *SERVER* could have easily caught it and brought it to the manager's attention rather than *US* having to tell our server. It's not our job to find an overcharge. The thing is, she admitted she didn't try her best. She blamed the computer the lying bitch! It's not the computer's fault, it's HER FAULT she decided not to check the prices *BEFORE* giving us the check.
ANY IDIOT can tell a "3" is not a "2", right? Well, then how can it be the manager's fault or the computer's fault? It's not.
Most servers are lazy and uncaring like yourself! YOU ARE RIDICULOUS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK ******HARD********** AND TRY YOUR ********************BEST************** FOR YOUR MONEY!
Tiffany Sansevero
"It's called team work. Not bad service."
You aren't working as a team though. You are taking a table number and that's it. You aren't doing your part to make sure that food is correct, that table number they said was correct, NOTHING you are doing as teamwork. You are just being lazy and uncaring.
Tiffany Sansevero
"while people like you call us slackers."
As I said, you *ADMITTED* to everyone you are a slacker. Don't blame anyone else but *YOURSELF* for bringing people wrong food when the order was put in correctly by the original server that took the order.
I'm a server and i agree with most of your points. I really think other server should read this.
After reading some of your comments I just don't know. I do believe you should find a job as a server and try the experience out. Your comments are rude and insensitive. Everybody is not trying to be rude to you but explain things you take that offensive.
Keltra Patterson
"I'm a server and i agree with most of your points. I really think other server should read this."
Thanks, but what do you not agree with and why?
"Your comments are rude and insensitive"
No, my comments are telling the truth from hard worker.
How am I rude when the others are being lazy and uncaring on the job, huh?
I mean like Tiffany Sansevero for example says she takes the number and leaves rather than VERIFYING the food for obvious errors, she blames it on others.
That's not nice and you call me rude? I don't get that?
"Everybody is not trying to be rude to you"
Most are. A lot of people have called me a bitch on here or other names and it's their FIRST post even.
Thank you so much. Those are sure helpful tips. I've never worked in a restaurant before and this is my first time being in a restaurant environment. I want to make sure I am doing my job right and I rather learn by myself. Everyone seems to have their own way of interacting with customers so I sometimes get highly confused. It's a fairly new business has only been open for 7 months and is an open kitchen concept.
Wow. You are obviously NOT a server. Your blog was a total rant and you sound like you have no idea what it's like to be a server. God forbid if you were ever a guest in my section....
Nancy Viemeister
"Wow. You are obviously NOT a server."
Wow, you are obviously NOT a *************HARD******* WORKER are you nor are you a customer with lots of problems at your table, are you?
"Your blog was a total rant and you sound like you have no idea what it's like to be a server."
You sound like you are VERY LAZY and have NO CLUE of what your job really entails. It entails getting things CORRECTLY to the table as much as you possibly can control. It entails getting things in a timely fashion with doing it correctly as much as you possibly can control.
What would you not agree with on here? Everything I have said is to *********PREVENT PROBLEMS***********. WHY do you not see that, huh?
You obviously have no idea how to be a server or what it's like to have problems at your table that your SERVER could have prevented you from having.
"God forbid if you were ever a guest in my section...."
The feeling is mutual, because who wants someone that doesn't *******************CARE********************* about them? Seriously, if you don't care about my dining experience, why should I care about your tip as much or if it's really bad, AT ALL even?
You sound VERY, EXTREMELY LAZY of a server. No one that is a hard worker would have a problem with these rules.
You are a very mean person. NO WAY would I want to have a server like you. You'd be the type I would ask not to get at the hostess's stand. I request not to get certain servers. You'd be on top of my list, because you are too lazy and uncaring to do the job the way it's supposed to be done.
Man! I hope that I NEVER have you as a customer at my restaurant. You are NUTS! and have obviously never been a server before.
Wow, so many years later and this hate comment war is still going on! #serversunite
I do agree with some of Springs1's points in the original post, although the article could definitely do without the belittling undertone. As for the comments, can we tone down on the personal attacks, especially those pertaining to another's body image? Just like Springs1 is free to criticize servers and express their inadequacy, you should respect servers' freedom to tell their side of the story without turning to a bunch of capitalized letters, ******, and filthy language. It really brings down the value and credibility of your original post, because after reading some of your replies you went from a guest simply expecting perfection to a very crazy and angry lady in my mind :|
Annie Yang
"you should respect servers' freedom to tell their side of the story"
The LAZY and UNCARING side of the story, WTF???
What side of the story? There is NONE that can save them from proving they aren't lazy/uncaring people if they don't agree with EVERY SINGLE THING I have said.
They sure don't respect me commenting to me their first comments some of them talking about that I would be fat(which I am not even 100lbs even at 5'0" tall). I keep my weight at 98lbs or so sometimes less, sometimes 99lbs. Sure once in a while I get to 100lbs.
The thing is, people are being MEAN to me, so I will do the *******SAME DAMN THING TO THEM***** as they have done to me.
EQUAL/EQUAL TREATMENT! Why should I respect someone that is being lazy and uncaring about other human beings, huh?
The last person that wrote on here called me nuts. So I wrote back just as she did, because she was mean and hateful. She is a VERY LAZY worker if she doesn't want to do *****ALL******* the things I have listed. What kind of UNCARING human beings are you all, huh?
I do have SOME people that have agreed with me, because they are not lazy and very caring people.
"to a very crazy and angry lady in my mind :|"
I am not crazy just because I want someone to ****CARE******* about me as much as I ******CARE**** about them in the tip.
Angry, of course, because in a lot of cases service is shitty today. It's pretty rare to find hard working caring non-lazy servers and you know it. Most don't give a shit about you,but want you to take pity towards them("we only make $2.13/hr") crap.
"As for the comments, can we tone down on the personal attacks, especially those pertaining to another's body image?"
A number of comments are to me about that, which doesn't make any sense since I don't eat that amount of food everyday to be fat.
As far as what I said to Ariel, she called me NUTS and said she hopes to never have me as a customer. That is MEAN.
Also, remember this is *MY* BLOG, so if you don't like, don't read it. It's that simple.
I can tell that you have never been a server! A lot of the things you are unhappy about are things that our managers tell us to do. Like not filling the ranch up all the way or refill drinks with out asking. Even marking the receipt where the survey is. Also when someone asks me for a side of ranch and I ring it in. Its not me that reads the order and puts it on the plate, the expo does. Its also not me that brings the food to you, the food runner does. Its not my fault that it didn't come out. So please for the love of GOD do not write an article on how to be good at something that you have never done!!!
Natalie Salcedo
"Not filling the ranch up all the way"
Why do I get ranch filled all the way 99% of the times, huh? It's mayonnaise that I have problems with, not ranch. If your manager don't let you(as I already KNOW THIS), you order 2 in the computer for each one so if it’s half a side, you bring me 2 halves so I can get the amount I ordered, DUHHH STUPID ASS. You don't have to give me less than what I ordered is the point.
"refilling drinks without asking"
There's no rule that states you can't ask if the customers want refills without being asked throughout their service. How come I get what I want a good 70% of the time, huh? Obviously, the managers aren't MAKING these people do this as you say.
http://www.stuckserving.com/waiter-story-here-is-a-nice-comment-form-the-squidoo-lens-about-the-waiter-tip-anybody-feel-the-same-way/comment-page-2#comments
JT said: “Obviously if a customer says they don’t want one, I am not expected to bring one.”
Then when I told him this:
“Your boss never told you it’s against the rules to ask this question, so why not do it? This is the question I would ask: “Some people like refills without asking, is this something you all would be interested in?” It’s not against any rules to ask if the customers want refills without being asked, so why not do it to please ALL, considering, it’s not required if the customers tell you they DON’T want it, huh?”
This is when he said this: JT said: “I’m done, please never come into Chili’s if you’re from the New Orleans area. I’m absolutely not kidding.”
If I wasn’t right he wouldn’t have given up, DUHHH! You can ask at the greeting if customers would like that type of service to begin with. NOTHING AGAINST POLICY TO DO THAT!
They encourage it as JT said, but it's not mandatory.
JT in the earlier part of our conversation posted this:
http://fuckmytable.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/scan-2.jpeg
It states silent refills when possible, NOT that it’s required. Even JT couldn’t admit it was required, because if the customer doesn’t want it, they don’t “HAVE” to take it STUPID MORON! It’s OUR TIP MONEY, OUR DECISION!
http://1000awesomethings.com/2008/06/30/994-waiters-who-bring-free-refills-without-asking/
Ashley said:
November 29, 2008 at 11:38 pm
“I too am a server and as part of training in the restaurant I work at, I was taught to ask before bringing a refill, because although they will drink it if it’s in front of them, some people dont actually want that whole other glass of pop, they might actually want water or an alcoholic beverage… so in asking you always make sure the customer is getting what they want."
This waitress says the 100% COMPLETE *********OPPOSITE***********of the rules you say managers want. HOW ABOUT THAT ONE FOR YA CONTROLLING, STUPID BITCH??
"Its not me that reads the order and puts it on the plate, the expo does. Its also not me that brings the food to you, the food runner does."
Are you stupid or what? The expo isn't forgetting an item from another room, *YOU* are. You are my server, so you can bring that stuff out AHEAD OF TIME REGARDLESS of *WHO* brings out the food. I have had PLENTY of times in my lifetime that servers have brought me my own food. Where do you get it's "ALWAYS" a food runner situation? If it's not busy, usually my server brings me my food.
The expo is not in charge of getting my food to me without anything missing, *YOU* are if you bring me my food DUMMY. You are SUPPOSED to read the order and compare it to the food *********BEFORE*********** you leave the kitchen. That's your job.
If you think you won't bring me my food, you can offer to bring the condiments ahead of time, most will want that rather than waiting 2-5 or more minutes to eat their food the way they enjoy it.
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Natalie Salcedo
YOU are in charge of condiments, because you are in charge of your *OWN* TIP in life. No one will make your tip for you, but *YOU* when it comes to missing condiments. I have had servers before that have VOLUNTARILY brought out the condiments ahead of time, some asked if they could do that, some didn't. I think it's best to ask to make sure it's ok with the customer. At times I have asked for my server to bring out my condiments before my food came out and 99% of them complied.
WHY are you mentioning the "expo" when they aren't leaving the kitchen with my food? You can notice if you left let's say a pen as you walked out the room that it's missing, so what's the difference between a pen missing and a condiment as far as OBVIOUS errors are concerned? You can notice BOTH things *BEFORE* leaving ANY ROOM IDIOT. YOU ARE A LAZY, STUPID MORON with NO COMMON SENSE to speak of.
Here's a former waiter that disagrees with you on the steak issue and more, READ AND WEEP:
http://archive.slickdeals.net/f/600104-Thoughts-on-Tipping-in-Restaurants?sduid=249745&p=7915572&highlight=springs1#post7915572
Demosthenes9 said: "Absolutely right. As a waiter, it was ultimately my responsibility to ensure that EVERYTHING was correct with your food. Cooks would plate up entrees and the expediter would "build tickets" by collecting the correct entrees, adding the side items, and placing the plates on a tray to complete the order. (at least that's how it worked just about everywhere I have been). At that point, the waiter SHOULD check each plate to see that the order is correct to include having the correct side items. Waiter should also make sure that the food is still hot and didn't "die in the window" while waiting for the order to be filled. Lastly, a waiter who actually knows what he is doing can simply look at your steak and tell with some accuracy whether it is cooked correctly or not. (There are of course exceptions where steaks are "borderline", like right between medium rare and medium, or between medium and mid well.) I have had any number of cooks yell at me because I told them to recook a steak before I even took it to the table. It doesn't take a genius to see a somewhat burnt steak sitting on a plate and to figure out that it ISN'T medium rare as ordered.) The funny thing is, if waiters took the time to pay attention to the little details like the one's Spring mentioned, they would actually have MORE time on their hands to take care of customers. Afterall, it takes maybe 30 seconds to check over an order and make sure it's correct. Failure to do so means that you now have to go all the way back to the kitchen, argue with a cook, get a replacement side item, then carry it back out to the table. That time could have been better spent taking care of other tables instead."
How come a former WAITER that **********ACTUALLY ******DID******* DO THE JOB************ (**************AGREES WITH ME, HUH STUPID LAZY ASS BITCH, HUH?
First off, a lot of times my server brings me my food. That’s usually during busy times that they have food runners, even then at times my server brings me my food. Secondly, condiments can ALWAYS BE BROUGHT OUT AHEAD OF TIME, NO EXCUSES IN THE WORLD, NONE! Unless they are out of something, there’s no excuse why you would make someone wait 10 -35 minutes for some mayo or ranch or mustard, etc.
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Natalie Salcedo - Continued"
Also, you act like you can’t put in orders wrong. Do you realize how many times I have had servers put in orders wrong by them *ADMITTING* SO or it’s wrong on my check? Also, I have put in orders wrong when I worked at a donut shop/diner back in 1998-2002 off and on a little over 2yrs worth altogether. I put in orders wrong at times. Nobody is perfect. Condiments are *ALWAYS* YOUR SERVER’S FAULT 100% OF THE TIME. I don’t care what. You have NO EXCUSE to wait to bring me my ranch or tartar sauce or mayo, etc. WHY WAIT? Just ask the expo ahead of time just as I have had servers do it for me when I asked or if they decided to. You just want to make LAZY ASS, UNCARING EXCUSES.
I cannot believe you are blaming the expo. The expo doesn’t leave the room, so it’s 100% **********IMPOSSIBLE***************** for them to be at fault for *ANY* OBVIOUS ERROR on the plate that you don’t have to touch the food to notice it’s wrong. Even if a food runner or another server that isn’t my server brings me my food, if I have the wrong side dish, it’s either my server put in the order wrong or the food runner(or other server) didn’t read the ticket or just missed it, but either way, it’s NEVER the expo’s fault. They didn’t leave the kitchen. STOP BLAMING THE EXPO. The expo is NOT being tipped from the customer IDIOT!
"It's not my fault it didn't come out,"
YES IT IS, YOU ARE MY SERVER so even if you don't bring me my food, you can bring me the condiments out ahead of time. There's no excuse for your laziness and uncaring to not EARN your *OWN* tip in life.
It is 100 BILLION PERCENT YOUR FAULT I don’t have my ranch. YOU TOOK MY ORDER, *YOU* COULD HAVE BROUGHT THAT RANCH OUT AHEAD OF TIME.
It’s soooo WEIRD you act like you never can have your own server serve you food. My husband and I have had LOTS OF TIMES OUR OWN SERVER SERVE US FOOD. It depends if your server is busy at the moment or not to bring your food out.
"So please for the love of GOD do not write an article on how to be a good at something that you have never done!!!"
I don't need to do it to know more than you. I JUST PROVED IT STUPID! For the love of GOD, STOP SPEWING YOUR LIES ALL OVER THE INTERNET AND PURE LAZINESS AS WELL AS BEING UNCARING! SERVERS AGREE WITH ME, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU STUPID BITCH, HUH? It tells me that you are lazy and uncaring. That’s what it tells me. It tells me you also like to LIE.
"Even marking the receipt where the survey is."
Then why don't most do it, huh? I go to Chili's regularly, most servers don't do that and don't get in trouble either. I request the same servers at times. Nobody gets fired or written up.
So please STOP LYING to the public! It's YOUR FAULT ***********YOU FORGET MY RANCH********, NOT ANYBODY ELSE'S ESPECIALLY NOT THE EXPO'S FAULT. THE EXPO DIDN'T LEAVE ONE ROOM THEN GO INTO ANOTHER TO BRING ME MY FOOD WITH SOMETHING MISSING STUPID ASS!
Natalie Salcedo
Why do you think you are an expert, because you are a server when *I* as a customer KNOW HOW TO DO THE JOB MORE THAN YOU DO? YOU DON'T SEE THAT, HUH STUPID BITCH?
I have MORE (******COMMON SENSE***********) THAN YOU WILL *EVER* HAVE!
It's common sense it's my server's fault for missing condiments. They are getting tipped, so DUH, they are in charge of things like that. Even if my server doesn't deliver my food, SO WHAT, my server could have still brought me my mayo, mustard, ranch, etc.
Even if another server or food runner brings me my food, let's say the wrong side dish, even if you put in my order correctly, that still counts against the tip, because I am paying for the *SERVICE*, NOT *WHO* in the "SERVICE" FUCKED UP.
If you would be willing to *PAY* your helper(food runner) a buck or two, they might actually *READ THE TICKET and COMPARE IT TO THE FOOD NEXT TIME. The food runner doesn't give a rat's ass about your tip. WHY SHOULD THEY?
Condiments are *YOUR* FAULT, NOT ANYONE ELSE'S.
The expo is NOT at my table, so HOW THE FUCK can that be POSSIBLE since it's an OBVIOUS ERROR that needs NO COOKING, NO PREPARE TIME OTHER THAN TO POUR IT IN A CONTAINER, HUH?
Natalie Salcedo
"I can tell that you have never been a server!"
I can tell you have never been much a customer with problems at your table or have a CENT WORTH of COMMON SENSE EVEN.
There's also no reason why you can ask me if I want refills without asking when you greet me. The managers are fine if the customer doesn't want it. They are. No manager will FORCE someone to take something to drink, get REAL if you think they would!
" Its not me that reads the order"
It *SHOULD* be YOU, because you are in charge of condiments no matter if you bring me my food or not. IT'S *******YOUR TIP****** ON THE LINE, YOU DECIDE TO PREVENT THE PROBLEMS OR NOT.
Natalie Salcedo
It's not even the expo's fault for obvious errors even, because that's on the *EYES* of the person bringing it out if my own server put in the order correctly that is.
Please, for the LOVE OF GOD(YOUR WORDS), STOP BLAMING THE EXPO FOR SOMETHING *************YOU**************** CAN PREVENT ****YOURSELF*********!
Natalie Salcedo
"Like not filling the ranch up all the way"
Also, another thing, at most restaurants I have *ZERO* problems if I specifically *ASK* if I can get the mayo filled ALL THE WAY UP. I have only had problems at LONGHORN Steakhouse, that's it.
One other time, at Texas Roadhouse, the waitress brought me several mayos to add up to filling it all the way up.
That's it, though at Chili's, Applebee's, etc. I have had NO PROBLEMS with getting it filled up all the way.
You have NO CLUE OF WTF you are talking about stupid bitch!
Wow this is utterly entertaining to say the least springs. I was hoping to gain a general idea of some helpful hints as to being a good server. Instead I got an essay of complaints from some body who can only be described as arrogant. An individual who propably hasn't served in her entire life. I've seen people like you many times in different places and it makes me sick. Show some empathy, compassion and patience. You say you are nice but it is very hard to see when you are calling people cunts, lazy and bitches. Come on darling you work in an office. Majority of the time you are on your bum, correct? A server is typical on what? there feet? correct? Servers in all actuality are very hard working individuals and are human beings who make mistakes too. You are not perfect and you need to look into yourself and realize it. Do not bother with a comeback I am never returning to this blog ever again. Peace out Miss narcassist.
apes671
"arrogant"
No, I am not arrogant. You just have NO ***FEELINGS*** TO SPEAK OF OR ***CARING*** IN YOUR HEART OR HAVE A **HEART*** TO SPEAK OF and you know it.
"An individual who propably hasn't served in her entire life."
I did serve customers in a donut shop/diner for a little over 2yrs worth back in 1998-2002 off and on. We served regular food items just like a Dunkin Donuts does. At times I worked 50-60 hrs, sometimes 65hrs-70hrs a week there.
"Show some empathy, compassion and patience."
When I see servers ******TRYING THEIR *********VERY BEST******** AND NOT BEING LAZY. Why would I show empathy for someone that doesn't care and is lazy? Think about it....
Compassion when I see you are trying your best. Patience when I see you are trying your best. Most don't try their best and that is why I have A LOT OF HATE.
"You say you are nice but it is very hard to see when you are calling people cunts, lazy and bitches."
I am not doing that in person in real life. It pisses me off to people like you that are mean and hateful.
"Majority of the time you are on your bum, correct? "
No, not all the time. I also worked at an office job before where I was on my feet the ENTIRE 100% day when I was a file clerk. Not all office jobs are on your ass stupid ass.
"Servers in all actuality are very hard working individuals"
I bet to differ is most cases, here is why:
1. At times even not write your order down.
2. Not write *ALL* request down(refills, bags, box, etc.)
3. Not compare their written orders or tickets/computer screen orders to the food for obvious errors.
4. Not compare the menu prices to the check prices to make sure the customers aren't overcharged.
5. Not verify the amount they are even charging you(has happened a few times where the server hands us the wrong amount charged on the credit card along with the check that has the correct amount).
6. Some don't go in the order in which request came in because they are too lazy to do so(like make 2 trips to bring soft drinks and then when the bar drinks is ready make another trip for that is what they should do, but some don't).
7. I have had 4 or 5 servers tell me "You might have to remind me" because they were too lazy to write my order down and reread their written order.
8. Auction off drinks(I just recently had a waitress do this to just me and my husband, seriously, TWO PEOPLE she was too lazy to get her written order out). Not my job to tell you what I had once you left the table. LAZY, LAZY, LAZY that is. You should know I had dr. pepper for example. I shouldn’t have to tell you again and again.
9. Not make separate trips for bar drinks and soft drinks.
10. A lot of servers don’t go put in the order after getting it if they are double or triple sat making the 1st table wait 5-10 extra minutes for their food because they are TOO LAZY to make extra trips to the computer.
I probably could think of more even, but this is what I have thought of now. I have other stories I can repost to prove to you that most servers are uncaring assholes that are lazy.
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apes671
"and are human beings who make mistakes too."
A mistake is when you *TRY YOUR *BEST* and then fail, NOT when you didn't try your best.
For example, waitress overcharged us on some prices($21.99 add crawfish $4.99), charged us $28.48 which was the total on our check for that item, but was supposed to charge us $26.98. Even without a calculator, you can estimate 22 plus 5 is 7, not 8, therefore, she could have done this in 5 seconds tops to have noticed this was wrong. When the overcharged happened we mentioned it, I was pissed that she didn't catch this and she said back to me "I DON'T ADD IT UP." She ********PROVED******** that she didn't ******TRY HER BEST****** to compare the menu prices to the check prices. I know she can't change the prices in the computer, but just like when you have wrong side dish you get another member of the team to fix the correct one, you do the SAME with *ANY* mistake in the restaurant that you can't fix yourself. You get the manager to YOURSELF WITHOUT THE CUSTOMER'S HELP. It's not my job as a customer to check if I am charged correctly on prices, that's my server's job to charge me correctly 100%.
That's just ONE out of MANY examples of that they don't work hard. Hard, that it's not a "REAL MISTAKE", but ON PURPOSE to NOT **TRY*** to get it right. It's just like not studying for a test and then failing. That is on PURPOSE to not study. Was she working hard as you say "Servers in all actuality are very hard working individuals", NO, she wasn't. She "WINGED" it per say. She didn't *TRY* to charge us correctly. She didn't *CARE* about *OUR MONEY*, but expected us to do *CARE about HER MONEY*. WOW, what a bitch she was. One-sided caring and NO EFFORT. That was no mistake. That was pure ****LAZINESS AND BEING UNCARING on the job. She *CHOSE* to not try her best. She *CHOSE* to show she didn't *CARE* about our money. How can someone expect us to care about their money(EMPATHY), if they show they don't care about ours? "I don't add it up" shows how she was a SELFISH UNCARING LAZY ASS BITCH. So OUR MONEY IS DIRT, NOTHING, but HERS IS HOLIER THAN THOU, WTF??? Her money is *JUST AS IMPORTANT* AS OUR MONEY IS.
WHY can't you servers see how SELFISH and LAZY YOU REALLY ARE out there?
Why aren't you comparing the menu prices to the check prices? That's your job to be a MISTAKE PREVENTER. I don't work there but I know MORE about the menu than you do is a HUGE PROBLEM. It's not mistake. A mistake is when you did compare the menu prices to the check prices and then didn't see it. SHE ************ADMITTED FLAT OUT************* she didn't "ADD IT UP", so YEAH, she admitted she didn't *********TRY TO CATCH THIS******. She PROVED she was A SELFISH, LAZY ASS UNCARING MF BITCH with NO EMPATHY FOR OUR MONEY, JUST HERS. Where's OUR EMPATHY towards OUR MONEY, huh SELFISH BITCH?
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So STOP acting like servers are these hard working caring individuals when most 98% of them aren't. They are JACK ASSES THAT ARE SELFISH AND LAZY JUST LIKE THAT BITCH WAITRESS. I left $4 on an $85 and something cent check. Should have STIFFED her honestly for the fact that she ADMITTED ******I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR MONEY********* TO SAY "I DON'T ADD IT UP." If you don't care about our money, WTH SHOULD WE CARE ABOUT YOURS? I would REALLY like to know that WHY you servers think YOUR MONEY is ONLY IMPORTANT, BUT OURS IS NOT? You aren't ABOVE US. A lot of servers on the internet say to customers stop acting like we are above you all, it's the 100% OPPOSITE that servers think they are ABOVE US when it comes to importance. Your money is NO MORE, NO LESS important than anyone else's in this world. Why not treat it as such? Instead, you get more of the ASSHOLES that are SELFISH BITCHES. Time and time again I am getting bitches like that. They aren't nice. You tell me I am not nice. It's not nice to not have "ADDED IT UP" STUPID BITCH! How is that "nice" to not *********CARE*********** if you overcharge someone, huh? That's SURE THE HELL NOT NICE and you know it. Nice would be to ***********CARE******* about what you are doing in the job. I would have caught that as a server ***********WELL BEFORE**** check time since it was an entrée. Before the customer would have even received the entrée, I would have had this fixed. I wouldn't have made my customer do work for MY TIP. That is what she did, made *US* ADD IT UP. It's NOT OUR JOB to CHECK EVERY PRICE since we aren't making a tip, OUR SERVER IS THOUGH!!
"You are not perfect and you need to look into yourself and realize it."
I do, that's why if you *TRY YOUR BEST* I would not count off as much. I don't see many servers do that. I see more servers be UNCARING, LAZY ASS BITCHES who don't *CARE* like ones that don't write your orders and request down, ones that don't check the menu prices against the check prices, ones that auction off drinks and food that took the order, etc. Hard workers don't auction off drinks. You should know WHO had the coke, who had the sprite. The only way I can see you wouldn't know is if you didn't take my order or I switched seats. In most cases, it's my server and most people don't switch seats. Hard workers don't make you wait 15 minutes for a coke, because 2 other people at the same table ordered bar drinks. They come back to the table with the coke. Stop acting like servers work hard. MOST DON'T. How many servers you know that ask if you want change? How lazy can you get to ask that? I mean just GO TO GET IT even if they tell you to keep it, you have *EARNED* YOUR ENTIRE TIP THEN BY GOING TO GET IT. We have been asked that when we have paid with a credit card even. It's LAZY. They don't want to make one extra step. It's all about laziness and being uncaring. You know most don't work hard. Servers work hard MY ASS, that’s funny, it really is. They don't work hard. Working hard is truly trying your best.
"Do not bother with a comeback I am never returning to this blog ever again."
This is *MY BLOG*! How can you tell me what to do with MY BLOG, huh control freak? That's because you know I am right and you are wrong.
"Peace out Miss narcassist."
Peace out ASSHOLE!
apes671
So we should care about your money, but you don't have to care about ours??? What a one-sided caring and you talk about EMPATHY, that's pretty darn UNFAIR of you to say. You aren't caring about our money, so WHY should we care about yours?
apes671
My husband and I had gone to try a certain Mexican restaurant for our first time. I ordered the nachos with shredded chicken for the appetizer nachos. Look at this on the menu:
“NACHOS DE LA CASA – Choice of ground beef
or shredded chicken, topped w/lettuce, pico de gallo,
sour cream, jalapenos and beans……………………………………………..7.25
w/Steak ……………………………………………………………………………………8.25
w/Shrimp ……………………………………………………………………………….9.25”
http://andalemargaritasgrill.com/menu.html
This is from the internet menu and it is just like this on the menu inside the restaurant. I didn’t specially order something not on the menu. We received grilled chicken from our waitress that you can *SEE* it wasn’t right, but I didn’t know since I don’t work there you know. Our waitress should KNOW what shredded chicken LOOKS like since SHE WORKS THERE, WE DON’T on the NACHOS she BROUGHT OUT!! It was our FIRST time there, so we didn’t know what it was supposed to look like(I should have though, but didn’t think about what shredded is supposed to look like, now I feel stupid about that I didn’t know just by looking at it the first second it hit the table) . Since nachos you can SEE the chicken, at least some pieces that aren’t covered up without TOUCHING anything, she should and could have caught her error for ringing it up wrong by her WRITTEN ORDER as well as the menu comparing that plate of food to the MENU noticing that there wasn’t an option nor did the customer say “GRILLED” anything. An option not on the menu even I DID NOT ORDER., HOW PATHETIC can you get, you don’t agree?
My chimchanga I specifically said shredded chicken. I didn’t think it looked right when I broke it open, but I didn’t know how they shred the chicken they served.
When we got our check, we were overcharged on TWO items. One was the nachos charging us $8.25(grilled chicken) when there isn’t even an *OPTION* on the menu(notice above from the internet menu) for that and I didn’t ask for something not on the menu. That was a dollar overcharge. Then, the grilled chicken is 50 cents more than what I ordered. $9.25 I was supposed to be charged, which I was charged $9.75.
I presented the problems to her nicely; she didn’t say she was SORRY even. I would have said I was SO SORRY and asked a manager if they can take off a least a soft drink for messing up if I were the server in that situation. It wasn’t just 2 overcharges, but she messed up 2 food orders as well by ringing them up wrong(at least the nachos for sure were rung up wrong) and SERVING the nachos wrong since it was obvious.
When I told her about there wasn’t even an option for the grilled chicken on the menu she said “It was an accident”, which I told her, which is SO TRUE, she didn’t even “TRY”. She didn’t: A. BRING out the nachos OBVIOUSLY correct by comparing the written order and menu to the food B. Compared what she was RINGING UP to the menu and the written order C. Compared the check to the menu prices to what we ordered BEFORE she handed us. How can TWO mistakes on a check be an “ACCIDENT” when you had times where you could have caught the mistakes since the restaurant was almost empty( like one other table of 2 or 3 people at it and 2 or 3 people at the bar? All that time we ate, she could have CAUGHT her mistake, for REAL. Our check times were 1:34p.m., then the credit card receipt was 2:14pm., so in all that time, since the place was almost empty, she couldn’t have caught those errors? GET REAL!! That was pure laziness and lack of EFFORT to TRY to get things right.
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So try to tell me HOW can I not *KNOW* how to do the job when I see this kind of UNCARING SHIT from a server, huh? If anything, that has TAUGHT ME what grilled chicken looks like compared to shredded chicken, that I knew the MENU *BETTER* than SHE DID, that she put in the order wrong for the chimchanga I am assuming since we got overcharged on that as well, she put in the order wrong most likely for the nachos since we got overcharged on that item as well. I couldn’t FATHOM doing **ANY*** of these things she did that *SHE* ALONE CAUSED OUR PROBLEMS at our table. See how I would be a BETTER, NON-LAZY, and MORE CARING server than she was, huh?
A good, caring server would have:
1. Since she wrote down what I asked for “shredded chicken” if she didn’t know the menu, she should have compared the menu while ringing up the items so she would have known “DUH NO GRILLED CHICKEN OPTION ON THE MENU EVEN AND THE FACT THAT I DIDN’T SAY “GRILLED” so she should have compared the written order to the computer screen she was ringing up.)
2. Before she brought it out, let’s say she put the order in correctly. She should have known how they shredded their chicken since she worked there to decide not to bring it out since you could clearly see it wasn’t shredded chicken on top the nachos.
3. When she put the order in for the chimichanga, assuming she most likely didn’t put it in correctly that she overcharged me on that, so she could have compared the menu to that item she was ringing up.
4. When she got ready to bring the check, she should have compared the menu prices to the check as well as the written order and found the errors, got them fixed from the manager BEFORE giving us our check.
A hard worker would have done all of that. Was she a "hard worker" and were those true "mistakes?" NO, to both. Did she "CARE" about our money? No, she didn't, did she. I stiffed her. WHY? Look what she did. She wasn't nice. She was mean. A nice, caring server would have done those 4 things I just said above. How do you have empathy for people that don't care about you when you are paying them to care about you? If you don't care about me, WHY should I care about you? It's as simple as that.
I don't get it with your ONE-SIDED CARING as if I have to feel sorry for the poor server, but they don't have to work as hard as they can or care? I don't get how you can say they work hard? WHERE the FUCK are you getting that from? I see MORE LAZY SERVERS than I see hard workers. Most don't write things down. THAT'S LAZY right there just with THAT and they are showing they could care less about remembering what you asked for by not writing it down. No caring, no tip.
apes671
How do you expect us to care about your money if you don't care about ours? I would like an answer please. Thank you in advance.
apes671
"Instead I got an essay of complaints"
I have EVERY RIGHT to complain, because the *EXPECT* a good tip. Think about it.... This isn't McDonald's where I have to accept bad service if I get it. This is where you are *PAYING* for the service.
" I was hoping to gain a general idea of some helpful hints as to being a good server."
You are, it's called you have to do your BEST and you have to ************CARE*********** PERSONALLY about our money if you want us care about your money PERSONALLY.
These are helpful hints, because all of it is to show you CARE and want to work hard. I don't understand how you could not understand that your money is not only important if you are a server.
I just recently some months ago had a waitress that we had gone to a restaurant for the 1st time tell us that any first time customers get a free half order of fried pickles. I had mentioned it to our waitress since I for some reason was reading the menu and not noticing they had mustard on the table already(I had asked for some when ordering). So she forgets the 3 sides of mayo which obviously she didn't verify the food before bringing it out since you don't miss 3 entire containers for only 2 people's food when one person's food(my husband's food was ordered as it came even) if you truly verified each plate with her written order before she brought out the food. I told her about it nicely, she didn't apologize. Then when we asked for the check, the FIRST ITEM was the fried pickles NOT voided. I had told her nicely about it, instead of her saying she was sorry, NO, she said "THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT OFF." I wanted to ring her neck(not literally, but was fuming when she said such a mean thing). I understand no server can take discounts off, but she was responsible for getting SOMEONE to take it off. If I were her, I would have said I was sorry for the mayos forgotten. I would have also said I was "SO SORRY about that" for the overcharge, even would have at least asked the manager if they could take a coke off the bill for the customer's inconvenience since it was $3.99 overcharge, which is a lot unlike at times where I have been overcharged cents. Anyway, even when she came back, she didn't say she was sorry. I was so floored. I truly believe she could have possibly done it intentionally to blame someone else like that and not to apologize for it. Especially it was the FIRST ITEM on the check. Anyway, we did stiff her. WHY? Her lying about who was at fault by blaming someone else. Not taking credit. Not apologizing as she could have and should have. Normally at times we tip 20%-25%-30% and more for excellent service. If she would have just forgotten the mayos and not overcharged us, because no apology for the mayos would have received 12%. If she would have said she was sorry 16% for the mayos if she wouldn't have overcharged us. If she would have apologized for both mayos as well as the overcharges and done what I would have done for the overcharge if I were the server, she would have received 19%.
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It all depends on HOW YOU HANDLE the situations. She was a total bitch, so her tip was what a bitch should receive. She wasn't nice. Her money is not ANY more important than ours. I truly bet she was doing this to all the customers that were first time guest so her tip could be higher(every $5 check, you get $1 more for every 20%.) So even if the person rounded, 80 cents more per customer would add up every day for a week even. I truly believe she did it intentionally because of HOW she handled it. "THEY" blame pushed me over the edge in my head and to my husband at the table talking to him about it. I couldn't believe she did that. I reported her to a manager. I just don't get WHY blame someone else for something that is YOUR FAULT?
So I have empathy towards servers that SHOW they CARE. Did she care? No, she was a SELFISH BITCH. She could have been NICE about it. I was nice. I just had told her NICELY that they had the fried pickles on the check. To BLAME SOMEONE ELSE is MEAN. She isn't blind or illiterate. She should have noticed this and took credit for the mistake. At least ONE sorry, but NOTHING, NO sorry, NOTHING.
Then you expect me to be the only person that is nice. I don't get it? You haven't been through the asshole servers we have obviously. You must not go out to eat much or rarely have problems or don't order modified orders.
I thought this was going to be a good blog to entertain myself will... but you are an up-tight B.
Listen, there were some points you made that were valid and have some merits to them. But you are complaining because your server brings you more water if all you had to drink was water and your glass was almost empty? That is called being a considerate server and it is a strategy to get to your table so that he/she can ask you if your are enjoying your meal and if there is anything else they can provide for you.
Stop writing things just for the sake of writing, and frankly I had about enough of reading with your rambling by the time you said "Some things to consider like maybe they don't want water or maybe they don't want free bread, because they are on a diet." Yes that was your fifth point you were making and I was already tired of reading and was painfully aware what a waste of time this is turning out to be. But oh nooooo, that is not the funniest thing, what is the funniest is you saying Maybe they do not want water and bread cause they are on a diet? If you get the urge to devour all of the breed set in front of you, then you do need some WATER to offset the calorie intake... cause water does NOT get you fat.
Here are my two cents! Me bringing water to you, without first coming to your table than walk back to grab you water is not very time efficient for a server... UNLESS you are their only table, BUT even then you still do it as a server. It shows that you care about your customers. Or would you rather not be focus on your meal and in your conversation with your husband so that you can wait to make eye contact with not just your table's server but with any server to bring you some water? But, since you have so much time to notice all of the little and useless things, I probably suggest you and your husband improve your life style so that you can have something interesting to talk about and not focus on how big or small the piece of lemon is in your water... Or just plain simply don't try to find excuses and why you should not tip (cause you are coming off as someone who sees for reasons even there where there aren't).
Damn! My 2 cents was a bit lengthy.
P.s. Don't give me wrong, there are some servers that are garbage... but so are some customers. Take it from me... someone who made almost all of regular customers of the restaurant I worked at, my regulars. You are not the only table a server works on, and as such we have to be efficient enough, so the table next to yours does not get their drinks or food even 1 minute late by wasting time to walking up and down... And you are not the only customer in the establishment, meaning bartenders and cooks have other orders to fulfill before they can fulfill yours. Your blog comes from a customer's point of view, and not once in the amount of reading I did, did you take in consideration how many customer points of view a server has to deal with at the same time.
Man...I can't even read this garbage, it really hurts my brain hole. I'm fortunate that I've never had to become a server to make a living, although I know a few people who have been, or still are, servers and bartenders. I couldn't handle it, especially with rude customers like you, who really doesn't know what it is like to work as a server.
Haha. This was a funny read. So, crazy lady, have you gotten some better insight to the restaurant business since this poor assessment of yours?
This is some of the most ridiculous crap I've ever encountered on the internet when it comes to talking about restaurant service. I hope to God I never have to serve you. You say you aren't mean, but your words don't have to be mean in order for a server to hate waiting on you.
Half of the things you described in this go against the policy of the place where I work. For instance - don't draw notes on the receipt, don't point out the survey...If I get mystery shopped, and I don't do those two things, then they lower my score and I get taken off the schedule. So i'm going to write a thank you on your check every time you come in, which literally takes 3/4 of a second.
If I followed your "rules" to be a good server, I would get fired from my job for lack of good service, for not being able to multi-task, and not following our steps of service. The steps of service have been studied and researched and chosen by the company because they've seen what works best and what makes the customers happy.
I'm not even going to finish this comment even though there is so much more I want to write because it's just not worth it. Just try not to be so selfish next time you go out. That's all.
I am going to write a little more, lol.
^^ That being said up there, I don't disagree with everything you say. A lot of it is common sense. And even though you disagree, not everyone can be a server. Some people aren't able to successfully multi-task. Others aren't able to keep things straight. So there are servers that are bad. But yea, a lot of stuff you said is common sense to a good server.
But then again, a lot of stuff you said that might make YOU happy goes against what certain restaurants expect their servers to do, that's all.
DeuceBigOhWOW
"but you are an up-tight B."
NO, I am not. You are.
"But you are complaining because your server brings you more water if all you had to drink was water and your glass was almost empty? That is called being a considerate server and it is a strategy to get to your table so that he/she can ask you if your are enjoying your meal and if there is anything else they can provide for you."
I don't understand your need for ******CONTROL******?? I also don't understand that because water is free doesn't mean the *******SERVICE********* is. Water is part of the service that you are giving.
So why should I have to endure my time be *****WASTED********on getting me water I don't want? Why waste time for ***OTHER CUSTOMERS*** that you could have been at their table instead of mine? Why waste money for the restaurant(glass, water(not only for drinking but for cleaning), ice, and soap)?
Why make a customer have to have something on their table when they need the ****ROOM AND SPACE**** FOR WHAT THEY DO WANT?
Why are you full of control? What's your problem? I wouldn't make someone have something if they didn't want it. That's just plain mean and inconsiderate.
I don't understand how you can call this "considerate" if the customer doesn't want it?
"Stop writing things just for the sake of writing,"
You need to stop writing CONTROL FREAK! You need some help with your lack of control in your life that you have to control other people's lives and their tip money they are paying.
"If you get the urge to devour all of the breed set in front of you, then you do need some WATER to offset the calorie intake... cause water does NOT get you fat."
No water doesn't have calories, but bread does. Also, water weight gain does make a person feel fat, I have got news for you on that one.
"Some things to consider like maybe they don't want water or maybe they don't want free bread, because they are on a diet."
That's what I said above that you quoted I said. Why don't you take it seriously? They may not want water or bread. Why do you feel the need to ******CONTROL PEOPLE******, huh? STOP CONTROLLING WHAT ******I WANT FOR ********MY TIP MONEY I AM PAYING YOU*****.
When ***YOU*** TIP ME, ******THEN YOU CAN DECIDE IF I WANT SOMETHING AT MY TABLE STUPID CONTROL FREAK BITCH! FUCK YOU! It's not have it the server's way, it's have it the customer's way for the customer's tip they are paying.
I CONTROL YOU WITH MY TIP DUMMY, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. You servers are at our mercy if you want our money to do what ***********WE**************** want, NOT WHAT ********YOU******* WANT, NOT WHAT *****MAKES YOU HAPPY*****. What makes ****US HAPPY********!
You are to do what the customer asks you to do if you want their money.
"Me bringing water to you, without first coming to your table than walk back to grab you water is not very time efficient for a server.."
It is when you didn't have to give me water at all MORON! I would have saved you A LOT OF TIME by not getting me water at all IDIOT!
It has nothing to do with what you want. It doesn't matter what's more efficient even to the people that want water. What matters is what ******THEY***** want for ********THEIR TIP MONEY*******.
Why do you have such problems with control, huh?
"BUT even then you still do it as a server."
No, you only do it if **THE CUSTOMER*** WANTS YOU TO DO IT.
" It shows that you care about your customers."
HOW when you are wasting *******MY TIME***** AND OTHER CUSTOMER'S TIME GETTING ME SOMETHING I FUCKING DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT WANT, HUH STUPID ASS CONTROLLING MORON, HUH?
Caring about your customers would be to care about their time not to waste it on things that the customers do not want. Who wants some server to do something in their service for nothing and who as the server wants to be sent back? Nobody does and you know it.
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"Or would you rather not be focus on your meal and in your conversation with your husband so that you can wait to make eye contact with not just your table's server but with any server to bring you some water?"
I would rather talk to my server to get what I want. It shows they ****CARE****** about NOT WASTING MY ******TIME*******. I don't want someone controlling my tip money like that.
WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO DRINK CONTROL FREAK BITCH, HUH? WHO ARE YOU?
"not focus on how big or small the piece of lemon is in your water..."
First off, I don't order water. If I get water with lemon, usually it's not *IN* the water, it's usually on the side and I just take that shit off. I don't even like lemons in water or iced tea even.
"Or just plain simply don't try to find excuses and why you should not tip"
I am not finding excuses. I can't control what a control freak like you does. If you decide to do something, that's YOU. That's not me making excuses that you did something you didn't do. If you did it, that's your fault. I never said I wouldn't tip someone. I am not sure WHERE you get that from?
"so the table next to yours does not get their drinks or food even 1 minute late by wasting time to walking up and down..."
Yet you find the time to fill up GLASSES and GLASSES of water for nothing as well as serve these glasses of water people don't want. I don't understand you?
Kr Za
"This is some of the most ridiculous crap I've ever encountered on the internet when it comes to talking about restaurant service."
Then you say this: "That being said up there, I don't disagree with everything you say. A lot of it is common sense. But yea, a lot of stuff you said is common sense to a good server."
So make up your mind, you either agree with me for the most part or don't. Everything I said should happen and you know it.
"I hope to God I never have to serve you."
That's because you are lazy, otherwise, why would you mind?
"but your words don't have to be mean in order for a server to hate waiting on you."
No, my feelings get hurt, so I hurt back at them on the internet.
"don't draw notes on the receipt,"
That's not required in most restaurants. I sure wouldn't work for a manager that wanted me to waste time like that. How come most servers don't do this if it's SOOOO REQUIRED, HUH?
"don't point out the survey.."
Been going to Chili's since 2005 or so, hardly ever have servers tell me about their survey. Also, most servers don't point out the survey.
"I would get fired from my job for lack of good service, for not being able to multi-task, and not following our steps of service."
No you wouldn't. What you are saying that I saying that's not following multi-task? You can still multi-task to things that I have at MY table for example. I wouldn't expect you to make 5 trips if I ask for 5 things.
"The steps of service have been studied and researched and chosen by the company because they've seen what works best and what makes the customers happy."
If it made customers happy, no one would be complaining. Lots of complaints out there and you know it. Nobody wants to wait longer than they have to. It doesn't make a customer happy for example to wait for their check or refill so they can see their server buss an empty table off while they are waiting for what they asked for. That's not good service.
"Just try not to be so selfish next time you go out."
I am not selfish, YOU ARE.
Springs, I see you are still ranting the same old BS about what lousy service you always receive. And you're still as mean and hateful as ever. I'd love to talk to your boss and/ or coworkers. I bet you talk to them the same way you reply to posters here on your blog. You're demeanor is so antagonistic and cruel, it's no wonder that you seem to always receive bad service. After waiting on you a few times, I'd give you lousy service on purpose. And my boss wouldn't even care. In fact, she'd likely kick you out and tell to to never return. I guarantee that every restaurant manager or owner in your area knows who you are. When you walk in the door the entire staff lets out a long collective moan, the manager included. Doesn't it bother you to know that so many people dislike you? It's doubtful that you have any friends. You can't get along with strangers for an hour. I don't see how you could have a long term relationship with anyone, except for other people just like you. Your bitter, vile attitude must have your blood pressure sky high! And considering your overindulgence in fatty condiments, your cholesterol must be just as high. Maybe you'd be a nicer person if you wouldn't smother all your food in mayo and ranch. Really, who needs three sides of mayo. And if each one isn't filled to the very top you get pissed. Who acts like that? I mean really... You sound like a spoiled little brat. And you're a bully! You call every poster on your blog mean, nasty names. And still you wonder why you get bad service. I'll tell ya why you get bad service...it's called Karma!!!
I don't think you are cut out to think or talk. I don't think you can read either.
I said (in just a few words), if you ordered water -> I bring you water -> if I see that you have almost finished your water -> I refill it for you without you tell me to (this is called being considerate and not a control freak you dumb ass)
Here is a free advice. If someone tells you "You are wrong", believe in "yourself" and continue on. Start to wander, if you are told "You are wrong" by more than a few people, that there is a chance you are in the wrong! But, by no means should you continue on the same road if you are told by more than a few hundred people. The rule of thumb should be 100 people in your case, then slowly reduce that number to the point that IT WOULD TAKE ONLY 1 person to tell you "You are wrong" to TRIGGER an evaluation response of your standings in regards to a topic (or anything else in your life). Self doubt sometime helps us realize our wrongs and improve ourselves.
You would make a very bad server, cause you are not listening to your senior.
Also... a good server can read people. And I've worked in establishments such as fast-food like restaurants to lounges to high end restaurants where you most-likely had to leave behind your husband as collateral.
And I can read you! Servers know who will be a pain in the ass, and you have the pain-giver-attitude written all over your face. Even if you think you don't give attitude, and despite saying "Thank you" and "Sorry" or "No worries", we know at what temperature your inner self is boiling at (and it has reached melting point).
You are who I said you are in my first posting in this blog. And as I said in the third paragraph above, if enough people call you a bitch... you most-likely are one (deal with it, or change... Turn around, your husband is nodding his head in agreement with me).
I will speculate here, that you are the one to complain or say comments like "WE Didn't ORDER THIS" with a hint of anger and disappointment while your husband is in his sit trying to achieve mind control on you so to get you to relax. And perhaps after he stares you long enough and gives up on mind controlling you, he turns at the server and say "Don't worry about it. Mistakes happen"... or possibly reality hits him that in order to do mind controlled, there needs to be mind to control. And judging by your reply to my first posting, you lack one.
There is so much that can be said, but frankly, I even doubt this is going to faze you. In order to faze you, you need an ability such as understanding... something you strongly lack.
You do not understand us, but we understand you. You are a bitch and we are morons that can't even hold a pen up. Right? Oh you don't agree? Me neither! We aren't morons.
My two cents for you.
When I worked as a server, I did not do it for the tip. I did it for the pleasure of interacting with different people of different ethnicity and backgrounds striking up conversation when it was possible. Customer's tips, were a reward for me job well done. Sometimes for my charisma, sometimes for phone number lol. Tipping was a reflection of my job. I knew which customer was up for a friendly conversation and those who weren't, what they wanted and what they needed. And how to talk to them. I was a hard worker and a try-hard-I-guess, but not in an awkward way, and generally speaking most servers are. And my TIPS reflected my skills.
Either way. May you be happy and find yourself a GARCON because us waiters are hopelessly at a loss with you.
Actually I know what you need... you need a butler, only they can do you justice. Don't keep them around too long they might reach the breaking point and smash the glass of water on your head... oh I forgot they are high class. So they'll just pure the water on your head then drop the glass on you.
P.s. Stop going to restaurants. You aren't having much luck with servers. And as this blog has shown you, you NEVER will lol. Cause most of your points about "How to provide good service" are against what servers actually learn in the work force, and in some cases (your points) are against the policies of all restaurants.
"Springs1isaPSYCHOPATH said..." Who ever you are I love you lol.
"I guarantee that every restaurant manager or owner in your area knows who you are. When you walk in the door the entire staff lets out a long collective moan, the manager included."
lol "manager included" loved it lol hahahaha
Springs1isaPSYCHOPATH
"And you're still as mean and hateful as ever."
No, I am VERY NICE PERSON!
"I bet you talk to them the same way you reply to posters here on your blog."
No, we just got our mid-year review and had some positive things like that I was very polite. You are VERY WRONG about that.
"After waiting on you a few times, I'd give you lousy service on purpose."
You call me mean, POT MEET KETTLE.
"must have your blood pressure sky high!"
No, it's not. I am usually around 100-115 or so over 70 or so, something like that. Never high.
"your cholesterol must be just as high."
In August it was 164. Not high.
"Maybe you'd be a nicer person if you wouldn't smother all your food in mayo and ranch."
What does niceness have to do with taste? Seriously, one doesn't have a THING to do with the other.
" Really, who needs three sides of mayo."
I do, usually 2 if they are filled. It's the only way I enjoy my sandwich or burger.
"And if each one isn't filled to the very top you get pissed. Who acts like that? I mean really... You sound like a spoiled little brat."
Who acts like getting their order wrong is fun? Only you maybe. It has nothing to do with spoiled, it has to do with they have a SET OF ***EYES***** that can see they aren't giving me what I ordered. That's OBVIOUS, not a mistake, that's on purpose.
If I asked for it filled, it should be as I ordered it. I shouldn't even have to ask for it filled. A side of something is the CONTAINER WORTH of it. I didn't order a half of a side, did I, NO, so WHY should you give me half a side if that's not what I ordered?
I am pissed, because now I have to WAIT LONGER TO EAT MY FOOD, sometimes SEVERAL MINUTES WAITING TO EAT, because I am not going to eat it without it. I ordered that item because of the condiments. That's the ONLY WAY it taste good.
"And you're a bully!"
No, YOU ARE. You came to my blog, remember that. I am a VERY NICE PERSON who just wants a server that is caring and a hard worker. What's wrong with that, huh?
" You call every poster on your blog mean, nasty names. And still you wonder why you get bad service. I'll tell ya why you get bad service...it's called Karma!!!"
No, because Karma is that I helped 3 servers get fired and I have reported many servers for their bad service as well as stiffed or left a bad tip to a number of the horrible ones. So they got their Karma back.
I am not a mean person. YOU ARE to say you would give me bad service on purpose. That's MEAN. FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
Another restaurant policy is... before giving your customer a free refill of COFFEE you ASK THEM (because coffee is not free for the majority of cases, unless you had a meal with coffee) if they want more and what you do as a server YOU BRING SUGAR/MILK/CREAM/SWEETENER/AND ETC with the coffee. NOOOOOOWWWWWW.... because I brought you all those garnishes along with your coffee I AM CONTROLLING YOU? ORDERING FOR YOU? Do you realize how much of of fucking nut-job you are.
Unless I am bringing things to your table for which you have to pay without your consent, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT TE BE ANGER.
Thousands of people do not see a problem with their glasses of water being refilled, but you do?!?! REALLY?!?! All of us are the crazy ones according to you? I think you are oxygen deprived, and been inhaling too much methane coming out of your asshole. That would happen often since you keep your head in the proximity of your ass.
Hundreds of thousands of sperm cells, and you were the quickest one? How bad was the competition for the egg?
Listen sweet chicks... your money means nothing compared to thousands of other customer. Last I checked, service industries have done studies and researched over and over again on what WORKS!(for 99.99% of the people) and chosen the best efficient-to-quality service ratio to maximize customer satisfaction.
Your blog is used on what not to do in the service industry, so to keep idiots like you away. Or should the industry forget about 99.99% of the customers and just focus on the odd balls like you? Get real.
YOU -> "The world of servers is LAZY AND UNCARING SELFISH ASSHOLES."
I was not uncaring selfish asshole and lazy... on the contrary, I busted my back to serve customers and I always thought about how to improve my service. Also, whatever life issues I had, I left them at the door and put a smile for even ANIMALS like yourself. Even when a waste-of-human-space-and-resources such as yourself would spill out some of the bad shit in their life into my life for no apparent reason.
You should try serving, it might make you a better worker, individual, and I hope to God you get someone such as yourself that is unhappy about the way napkins are folded. You will quit... in tears... and run like a mad cow. But the bright side is that with those long hours of you hauling trays with meals/drinks/dirty plates to and from tables for 8 hours a day, you might realize Bruce is still alive and the bat-cave back in action.
For crying out loud. Do you have such a boring fucking life that you pay such attention to no-existing or insignificant details such as water refilling or more bread on the table? Or are you that little of a person and straight out of a Zoo? My apologies to Zoo animals, at least they work well for the majority part with human beings. You should take note and learn from them. I'll give you a banana.
One more thing love... You are a waste of time, and non-existing and insignificant. Best of luck to you, change and learn not to give two fucks about the useless things and start resolving some of your life issues so that when next time a server brings you a fork and knife for your 100 ounces stake you don't think "OMG THIS SERVER IS TRYING TO CONTROL WHAT I WANT?!?! THEY DARE TO ORDER FOR ME?!?!??!?!?"
Sometime we server assume you are a human being and have proper table manners and eat your food with a fork and knife (other than finger foods) instead of stuffing your face in your plate like an animal.
Good life to you... I know it will be hard. 6,999,999,999 people are trying to control you. I hope you wear your aluminum-foil-hat every day, or God forbid we will sneak in your head and make a proper civilized and respectable member of society.
Your failure to understand SOP in restaurants is phenomenally and willfully ignorant. Every restaurant is different, but we work tables according to management instruction, which can include: ALWAYS bring water and bread to your tables when you greet. MOST of the soft drinks we need to get come from the service bar, which is where we pick up the alcoholic beverages as well. It is BAD FORM to bring some beverages while others at the table have none, period. When we bring the beverages we take the app order only. Sometime after that we can take the entree order,usually before or during app service. This is a MANDATE from the kitchen so that they can TIME the food. In many restaurants, the EXPO preps the plates which includes all the sides, condiments and mods that the customer orders. I worked in a restaurant where ketchup was NOT served with french fries. If a customer wanted ketchup we had to put it in a ramekin. There were no bottles of ketchup to bring. It was stupid and a waste of time but management would not allow us to pre-bring ketchup! I cannot up sell a margarita until after you order it, because I can't read your mind. If we have a margarita special I can suggestively sell, but up-selling is after the fact. Know the difference! SOMETIMES a server doesn't have time to take your order after they bring your drinks! Especially when they are triple sat- if they take orders one at a time as you suggest, everyone waits too long. Again as per management, we are instructed to treat it all as ONE table. They don't care what's fair, they want it done ASAP. It's very considerate of you to order all your condiments at once and if I can, I will accommodate you. I'd much prefer to bring you a soup bowl full of ranch than 4 sides 4 separate times, but if it's up to the EXPO, or the kitchen, who may not have time to get it, then you'll have to wait. Sorry, but that's life. MY "regular" customers do like to chit chat. They wait for openings in my section so they can be with me. I only visit after all my customers have what they need, which usually doesn't last very long and then I keep moving. If two table's orders come out at the same time I take both at once. I serve the one that ordered first. Kitchen does NOT want any food sitting in the window, that's just how it's done and I can't control the cooks except to stagger my orders, which may or may not work out. Realize that my orders are not the only ones the kitchen has and they don't necessarily make them in the order they come in! You can hypothesize any restaurant scenario you want but the fact of the matter is, when there are possibly hundreds of patrons vs. a handful of staff, things get complex, far more than you can comprehend because you seem to think you are the only one who needs accommodation. You are a narcissistic twit with no business commenting-obsessing,even, on the restaurant industry. You need a dose of Thorazine,STAT!
DeuceBigOhWOW
“Another restaurant policy is... before giving your customer a free refill of COFFEE you ASK THEM (because coffee is not free for the majority of cases, unless you had a meal with coffee) if they want more “
I NEVER heard of that before. Every place I have ever heard of refills are free regardless of meal purchase. Back when I worked at the donut shop/diner, 1998-2002 off and on a little over 2yrs worth, coffee refills were FREE. Some people didn’t want refills until they were finished to not mess with their perfectly made coffee. Some customers would get lots of refills and would only purchase a coffee, that’s it sit there for hours and hours. That was their hangout.
Again, you are stuck in the mentality that we aren’t paying a tip for the free item. We are still paying for it, so it’s still a part of the service just like in most restaurants I order condiments. THOSE ARE FREE IN MOST RESTAURANTS, YET, I AM *******ORDERING RANCH, MAYO, MUSTARD, ETC.**********. I am still *******ORDERING RANCH************ even if it’s free. Free is just to the restaurant, not to the server. I would think you would feel if you did a good job(meaning get the order right as much as you possibly could, not overcharge me, and give things in a timely manner as much as you could control) you would feel you deserve more money for getting me more things like extra condiments, a bunch of refills of soft drink and bread. For some reason, you are mentality that if I went to let’s say Outback got bread with my condiments(I order some ranch for example with the bread) and a glass of water, I wouldn’t have to pay anything according to you, because all of that is free. I think that would be wrong just as you would and you know it, because I am still having someone “SERVE” it to me. I am still having a person doing *******WORK***** for me, even if it’s free. All of that is free, so according to your logic since it’s free I am not ordering the ranch or bread or water and you don’t deserve a tip according to YOUR STUPID LOGIC. I would tip if you did a good job, because you GAVE ME SERVICE. NOT because the items were free. The item being free honestly means I will tip you based on what the bill WOULD HAVE BEEN such as I go by if my husband gets water for example, I add in another $2.50 plus tax to our final bill and THEN tip based on what the bill would have been since it was just as much trouble to get refills of water as it would be for a soft drink or iced tea or lemonade. That’s if I get good service though. I won’t do it if the server has been shitty to me.
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“and what you do as a server YOU BRING SUGAR/MILK/CREAM/SWEETENER/AND ETC with the coffee.”
You can still ***ASK IF IT’S NEEDED RATHER THAN ASSUMING**** just like you act ask if the customer wants ketchup when ordering if the ketchup bottle is not on the table. Are you afraid to ask a question? Sounds like it. If as a customer you don’t want to be asked, you can bring a written list if you don’t want to be asked, because don’t make people like me that WANT to have conversations with their server about what they want or don’t want. You might find out they like black coffee with nothing in it even and that you would have wasted your time bringing that stuff if it’s not already some of it on the table such as a lot of restaurants have sweeteners already, but not all do.
Why should you waste time for a person that just wants coffee without all of that for them to pay for you to waste their time when they just want to order their food, huh? Why waste time for other customers in the restaurant getting unwanted items? Why do you want to work more when you don’t have to? Work smarter, not harder to avoid doing these actions if the customer doesn’t want them done by simply ******ASKING****** them.
Lots of times my husband declined a glass of water, he has also denied refills at times as well. You act like everyone wants the same things and that everyone has to go by YOUR CONTROL FREAK WAYS of doing things rather than what *THEY* want for **THEIR TIP MONEY** as it is SUPPOSED TO BE. I am not telling you how to spend my hard earned money to tip with, why should you have a right to tell me how I want my time and money spent when you are*PAYING* for that privilege to?
“I AM CONTROLLING YOU? ORDERING FOR YOU?”
Yes you are. Free doesn’t mean it’s not ordered MORON. If I ask for a glass of water when I order at an Applebee’s, I sure am ORDERING IT. Applebee’s servers don’t just give you water if you order a wild cherry pepsi(at Applebee’s here they have Pepsi Products). A lot don’t even give you water if you order an alcoholic beverage either.
“Do you realize how much of of fucking nut-job you are.”
Do you realize what a nut-job you are to CONTROL SOMEONE ELSE’S TIP MONEY LIKE THAT? Do you realize you are trying to CONTROL HOW LONG I WAIT FOR THINGS AND WHAT I GET AT MY TABLE BY *****YOU DECIDING THESE THINGS***** instead of letting ****ME***** get a chance to accept or decline the offer, because no offer was made, you made the decision for me without my knowledge or consent or permission. My tip money, ****MY DECISION****!
I RULE YOU WITH MY TIP MONEY MORON! WHEN YOU TIP ME, ****THEN***** YOU CAN BRING ME WHATEVER YOU WANT FOR FREE WITHOUT MY CONSENT. Until then though, customers tip their servers, so CUSTOMERS RULE THE SERVICE, NOT YOU SERVERS!! I AM ****PAYING******* YOU TO GET ME WHAT ****I******* WANT, NOT WHAT ****YOU**** WANT. WHERE THE HELL DO YOU GET OFF ACTING LIKE YOU ARE PAYING THE TIP TO ME, HUH? If you were paying me a tip, then you can make these decisions that aren’t yours. ****THAT’S RIGHT, THAT *****ARE NOT YOURS!!
IT’S NOT YOUR DECISION IF I WANT A GLASS OF WATER OR NOT SINCE I AM PAYING FOR YOUR SERVICE YOU PROVIDE. IT’S *****MY DECISION ONLY***** IF I WANT ANYTHING AT MY TABLE OR BEING FIXED OR BROUGHT TO ME. I AM IN CONTROL, NOT YOU, because *****I AM ******PAYING A TIP FOR THAT RIGHT FOR MY TIME THERE CALLED A TIP*****!!
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How is it that you aren’t controlling me if I send you back with the water or bread? You are controlling what I am getting without my consent. If you would have *****ASKED******, I would have told you not to do it and you would have been a more efficient server that way not wasting time unnecessarily. How come mostly all restaurants don’t serve water automatically unless you are in a fine dining restaurant? It’s because MOST PEOPLE DON’T WANT WATER. Don’t you SEE THAT MORON that MAJORITY DOESN’T WANT WATER as to why most restaurants like Red Lobster, Chili’s, Applebee’s, Outback, etc., don’t just bring you water unless you ORDER IT, that’s right, ***ORDER IT****.
Also, some restaurants don’t give you a slice of lemon with water unless you ORDER IT THAT WAY, because that cost money.
“Unless I am bringing things to your table for which you have to pay without your consent, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT TE BE ANGER.”
But I have to pay your tip when I am in a large party and morally speaking I have to pay you a tip if you did at least a decent job even in a party of 2. So YES I have a right to be angry, especially when I have a mandatory tip I have to pay I am PAYING for things in my service that you are FORCING ME TO TAKE WITHOUT MY CONSENT.
“Thousands of people do not see a problem with their glasses of water being refilled, but you do?!?! REALLY?!?!”
I have seen complaints about not wanting servers to come every 2 seconds to the customer’s table to fill it if they have like ¾’s of a glass already like they keep interrupting the customer’s conversations to fill it that little bit. That has happened to us as well and I agreed with those customers that were bitching about that on the internet. No one wants a server to be in their face every second.
So what if thousands of people want this or that, you aren’t serving thousands of people all the time that feel that way. Why don’t you go by ***INDIVIDUALITY***** when you serve? This way you will get it right 100% of the time by asking rather than assuming getting things wrong at times.
“your money means nothing compared to thousands of other customer.”
Then why are you serving me then if you don’t want the money? Why are you at work then? Why servers complain when they get stiffed if they don’t care? Every server besides you cares.
“Last I checked, service industries have done studies and researched over and over again on what WORKS!(for 99.99% of the people) and chosen the best efficient-to-quality service ratio to maximize customer satisfaction.”
But they aren’t ******PAYING FOR THE SERVICE******** TO CONTROL US LIKE THAT. That’s not morally or legally right to do that. You can’t make me have a glass of water if I don’t want it. That’s BS! It doesn’t matter if only 2 people out the entire year at Outback would not want bread, I would have satisfied 100% of my customers, while you would have gotten 2 of them wrong. Understand what I am saying? I want to please the customer, not myself like you do. You want to please yourself. That’s not how service is supposed to go. It’s supposed to be what the customer wants, not what **YOU** want to give them or force them to have.
“Your blog is used on what not to do in the service industry,”
Then WHY do I have servers that have AGREED with me, huh? Because it *IS* how to do service.
“so to keep idiots like you away.”
You are an idiot that has to be explained that you are ORDERING for the customer, which *IS* COMMON SENSE.
“I was not uncaring selfish asshole”
You are to FORCE someone to get something for the money at times they HAVE TO PAY MANDATORY GRATUITY.
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“and lazy... on the contrary, I busted my back to serve customers”
So you do or don’t do the following:
1. Do you write **ALL** orders and request down?
2. Do you compare their written orders or tickets/computer screen orders to the food for obvious errors?
3. Do you compare the menu prices to the check prices to make sure the customers aren't overcharged?
4. Do you verify the amount they are even charging you(has happened a few times where the server hands us the wrong amount charged on the credit card along with the check that has the correct amount)?
5. Do you go in order in which request came in or are you too lazy to do so(like make 2 trips to bring soft drinks and then when the bar drinks is ready make another trip for that is what they should do, but some don't)?
6. Have you ever told a customer "You might have to remind me" because you were too lazy to write my order down and reread my written order? I had 4 or 5 servers during the years do this crap.
7. Do you auction off drinks(I just recently had a waitress do this to just me and my husband, seriously, TWO PEOPLE she was too lazy to get her written order out)? Not my job to tell you what I had once you left the table. LAZY, LAZY, LAZY that is. You should know I had dr. pepper for example. You should be asking “Would you like another dr. pepper” which my answer is sometimes, “no, Can I get a coke instead.”
8. Do you go put in the order after getting it? If servers are double or triple sat it makes the 1st table wait 5-10 extra minutes for their food because they are TOO LAZY to make extra trips to the computer.
If you do #’s 1-5 and 8 THEN and ONLY THEN are you not lazy.
“and I always thought about how to improve my service.”
You know how, I am telling you how. KNOW what you are doing instead of risking wasting customer’s time like you do and stop being so CONTROLLING. Stop acting like you know what I want in my service I am paying for.
“even ANIMALS like yourself.”
I have got news for you, we are ALL animals IDIOT. I am not a mean, controlling person like you are.
“that is unhappy about the way napkins are folded.”
No, that happens *********BEFORE****************** MY SERVICE HAS STARTED, so that DOES NOT COUNT IN MY SERVICE IDIOT! It would be like me blaming my server for the hostess seating me out of order letting someone else that came in after me before me when we had the same amount of people, the same requested seating. I don’t blame things that are not part of the service. That means, if there is a ketchup bottle on the table, that’s not my server’s service for example, because that occurred ***WELL BEFORE I GOT SEATED***, which is before the service has started.
“You will quit... in tears... and run like a mad cow.”
No, unlike you, I am a hard worker that CARES about my customers and I wouldn’t waste precious time like you would getting unwanted items.
“Do you have such a boring fucking life that you pay such attention to no-existing or insignificant details such as water refilling or more bread on the table?”
Pot meet kettle. You are arguing with me about it, so how can you tell me something, huh HYPOCRITE? You are here arguing with me when you know I am right. If I am in a large party, I am ******PAYING******* BY LAW******* for you to waste my time, so YEAH, I have EVERY RIGHT TO BE PISSED. Why should I get what I don’t want for my tip money, huh? Why do you want to control my tip like that? Why do you want to control my time like that? WHY?
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"Restaurant policies are such that you refill empty glasses of water, and more bread if their meal is not over yet."
It's not restaurant's policy that you can't ***ASK*** even if you have to greet with it, you can still ask ****BEFORE**** you take it off the tray. No one is telling you that you can't ask questions and you know it.
Honestly, a restaurant that we used to have here(it closed down due to one of the sisters died, so they couldn't afford to stay open), the server said "By request" for bread. You want to know why, *******TO CUT COST*******. Also, when giving bread, they give you 3 biscuits for a party of 2 at Red Lobster. If I want more all at once, I have to request it.
Same thing at Corky's bbq, if you don't order an entrée that would come with bread like a sandwich that is already bread to an extent or something like a salad, the *MENU* states you get at least one roll with it, but all the times I have gone there they give you a basket of rolls like 3 or 4 if you did order a normal entrée. If you only ordered a sandwich, you have to REQUEST if you want free bread. That's how they do it there.
Restaurant owners aren't forbidding you to not deliver bread if the customer said they didn't want it nor water either. You are full of BS!
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“Your failure to understand SOP in restaurants”
Your failure to see *****WHO IS PAYING FOR THEIR TIME THERE CALLED A TIP WHO IS IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING ON THEIR TABLE THAT GETS SERVED TO THEM*****. It’s not the owner or manager, so they have ZERO say so on how my service is ran. They own the business. They can refuse to serve me and they can throw me out if they so desire, but they can’t control my tip money legally. It’s my tip money. Why are we paying a tip if they are in charge? Why aren’t THEY paying their employees normal wages then if they want things their way like McDonald’s for example?
“ignorant.”
NO, you are ignorant to act like the manager can control my tip money, which is my time there. It may be their business, but ********MY TIP MONEY IS PAYING FOR IT AND SOMETIMES MANDATORY IF IT’S A LARGE PARTY. So NO, that’s not right for someone to control someone else’s money. Where do you get that from, huh?
“ALWAYS bring water and bread to your tables when you greet.”
No manager told you that you couldn’t *********ASK*************BEFORE PUTTING THE DRINKS AND BREAD ON THE TABLE, DID THEY?
Also, why aren’t the chain restaurants doing this like Applebee’s, Chili’s, Red Lobster, Outback, etc. I have been to an Applebee’s in a state hours and hours away that the server didn’t bring us water at all, not when greeted or any free bread(since Applebee’s doesn’t have free bread anyways).
“MOST of the soft drinks we need to get come from the service bar, which is where we pick up the alcoholic beverages as well.”
Most chain restaurants and restaurants in general have soda stations servers can get soft drinks or iced tea from not dependent from the bartender.
“It is BAD FORM to bring some beverages while others at the table have none, period.”
No it’s not. Plus you they have WATER as you said you give to everyone, so they have an equal item of all non-bartender made drinks that the bartender doesn’t have to actually make the drink. You don’t get that for the person that has a coke and 10 other people order bar drinks(let’s say that one person is the designated driver), how the HELL is that FUN for that ONE person to wait 15-20 minutes to have their thirst quenched? I think offering waters would be fine to OFFER water so that way others while they wait can have something. I don’t think it’s fair to make one person wait for everyone else for DRINKS. When my husband gets a side salad, but I choose to not get a side salad or cup of soup before my meal, my server still brings his side salad even though I have no food in front of me. It’s not the same as when food is served. I also feel if 2 people have beers in a bottle, they are already ready, why make them wait 15 minutes for 8 other people’s frozen drinks to be made? I think that’s unfair. Make a survey, I dare you. Most people will agree with me and you know it. I don’t want to sit there and wait at all. I want my drink, THIS SECOND if I could have it. I don’t feel I should have to request to get my soft drink before my bar drink. Also, I have requested that a few times before and YES the SERVER DID WHAT I ASKED THEM TO DO. That’s right, it wasn’t in bad form that they couldn’t do it STUPID BITCH. Why not just *ASK* “Would it be OK to bring out the faster drinks or would that not be ok with you all?” I bet MOST of your customers would say ****YES PLEASE******** and you know it. PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE WAITING FOR ANYTHING IN GENERAL AND YOU KNOW IT.
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“If we have a margarita special I can suggestively sell, but up-selling is after the fact.”
You can, but you don’t have to is what you are saying. Do it BEFOREHAND. No one says you can’t. Also, there’s a difference between adding something vs. changing the item completely. I ordered an orange margarita that was on a drink menu at a chain Mexican restaurant and the waitress tries to upsell me right after on one that is FROZEN, not on the rocks as I ordered(I ordered on the rocks) one that is a regular margarita, not orange. That’s not upselling. Upselling would be if that orange margarita had a bigger size or if I added grand marnier to it. What she did made her tip down to 10%. WHY? She tried to change my mind. WHY FUCKING ASKING ME, THEN TRY TO CHANGE MY ORDER? I mean as I said there’s a difference between if it would be a bigger size or adding a flavor to it for more or adding something else, but for her to change from an orange flavored margarita to a regular one makes no sense. It would be like you ordering a regular margarita ON THE ROCKS to upsell you on a strawberry margarita that is frozen. 2 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT drinks. It’s like upselling me at McDonald’s on a grilled chicken sandwich to a fried chicken sandwich.
“SOMETIMES a server doesn't have time to take your order after they bring your drinks! Especially when they are triple sat-“
They do if we say we are ready to order. You do as ****WE ASK YOU TO DO*****. Also, if you are double or triple sat, you are holding our orders in your hands for 5-10 MINUTES BEFORE our food gets to the computer meaning it’s 100% *****YOUR FAULT HOW LONG WE WAIT FOR OUR FOOD AND EVEN DOING THAT TO THE 2nd TABLE FOR THE 3rd table to get CUTSIES.
“if they take orders one at a time as you suggest, everyone waits too long.”
NO, we wait the longest if we were first MORON. That’s not true.
Here’s a server that agrees with me, read and weep STUPID BITCH:
http://howtobeagoodserver.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-be-good-server-in-restaurant.html?commentPage=4
Stef319
” MT
“Your system of never taking another tables drink order before turning in a ticket would back you up terribly, not to mention the humongous quantity of time you’d waste checking plates and menu prices. It would take you forever to get anything done.”
In my opinion, MT, once an order is taken, it should be put into the computer IMMEDIATELY. Once my guests place their order with me, the clock begins to tick. They should be getting their apps 5-10 minutes after they PLACE their order, and their entrees should take between 20-30 minutes (where I work). You really should not start off a new table with an appetizer or dinner order on hold. The guests who just placed their order (who are hungry) are watching you approach another table. You then have to build your rapport, go over the specials, and possibly answer questions. This can potentially be very time consuming and your guests are not going to appreciate the delay in your service. There are other times when it is acceptable to work all your tables together, but when you have a food order you shouldn’t be doing this. The correct way to handle this is to approach the table (with the other tables’ menus in hand) and acknowledge their presence, and tell them YOU WILL BE RIGHT BACK. Then you ring in the order, go back to the table, and then you can do your greeting, go over specials, answer questions, etc. Now you can take your time with the new table cause you know that your other tables’ food is getting worked on by the kitchen. I know that this can be time-consuming but it really is worth it. Waste no time getting food orders in.”
August 5, 2011 12:05 PM
This was her blog I wrote on which at first she was not agreeing with some things I had said, but later she did as you can see:
http://stef319.hubpages.com/hub/Confessions-of-A-Food-Server
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“Again as per management, we are instructed to treat it all as ONE table.”
No Stef319’s manager at Red Lobster and not the Red Lobster manager I talked to that AGREED with me either. We aren’t one big tip we are giving. It’s not one big table. The restaurant is hurting themselves by making the tables wait longer for their food.
“they want it done ASAP.”
But as Stef319 said, it’s not ASAP. We wait longer for our food and drinks that way if we are the 1st and 2nd tables. The 3rd table is the one that only waits the very longest doing it the way I and Stef319 is saying.
“but if it's up to the EXPO, or the kitchen, who may not have time to get it, then you'll have to wait. Sorry, but that's life.”
No I won’t have to wait. You aren’t supposed to be serving me food unless it’s 100% COMPLETE, otherwise refuse to serve it. Also, as I said before, if the customer wants condiments beforehand, YES you can do it. I guarantee your manager will let you if the customer is requesting it. You can also ask as well. I have had servers offer to bring my condiments ahead of time with them asking me about it.
“MY "regular" customers do like to chit chat.”
You just talked about time, but you have time to play, WTF??? You can’t go to the computer, but you can PLAY AROUND, WTH??? I don’t get it? So you can’t make an extra trip to the computer to put our orders into the computer, but you have and find the time to chit chat??? That’s FUCKING BULLSHIT and you know it.
I chit chat with servers *IF* they have the time for the ones that are nice to us. I request some servers.
“They wait for openings in my section so they can be with me.”
I have done that a ZILLION TIMES and then some.
“I serve the one that ordered first.”
As long as you did that I am fine with that. If it’s not hot food though, you don’t have to take the time to put it on the tray such as side salads. That can wait an extra trip.
“Kitchen does NOT want any food sitting in the window”
That’s not what the customer wants though. They want *FAIR* and *FAST, TIMELY SERVICE*. The kitchen isn’t tipping you, so it doesn’t matter what they want.
“You are a narcissistic twit”
You are. I am a very nice and considerate person, you aren’t.
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I said "It's not the same when food is served", I meant SAME COURSES. If I want a refill, but my husband doesn't need one, you will still bring me my refill, DUHH. That was my point.
Made a typo:
"Right now I am 96 pounds this morning with no close on after I went to the bathroom."
I meant CLOTHES. Sorry.
DeuceBigOhWOW
http://bluepersdiary.com/2014/01/30/10-questions-servers-get-everyday-and-how-they-wish-they-could-respond/comment-page-1/
You might want to consider reading this person's response:
Danielle said: "Not everyone wants a water. Why waste it if it won’t be drank???"
She does have a GOOD ******EXTREMELY TIME SAVING VALID POINT.
Billy mcgee said: "1. Many guests want soda, juice, beer, coffee, etc… and don’t want water."
Again, found another person that agrees with me.
Billy mcgee said: "there is no point in refilling your cup of coffee if you don’t want anymore (thus the question)."
Isn't that something, huh?
Charles said: "many people don’t want a glass of water,"
Look how many people SOOO ****DISAGREE WITH YOU********* CONTROLLING MORON!
All I did was google severs tipping control and got to this, that's how I found this.
Macy Ruhl said: "A LOT of people don’t want refills. We don’t just assume that way we don’t waste a shit ton of drinks."
Finally some one with some ***COMMON SENSE***!
Richie said: "Water isnt something that you get automatically first of all. You know how many times people ask for it and never touch it, or worse , “waters all around.”"
KJ said: "1) Water is often a commodity. Plus, 70% of the people that ask for water never touch it."
KJ also said: "5) Many people only want one cup and wave off the refills causing wasted time again. Yes, even the ones who chug the first cup don’t always want refills."
Mark said: "Why bring out an extra beverage to someone who doesn’t want it?"
Danielle said: ") i have legitimately had customers yell at my when i automatically bring water to the table for everyone, yelling about costing money they didn’t plan on spending, while i try to patiently explain to them that water is free.
also, have you considered some people don’t drink tap water, and demand bottled? that’s something that need to be asked for. also something i’ve been yelled out about because “how dare you bring this disgusting tap water to me!”"
Really?? said: "1- I don’t like water with my meals," " most people I’ve seen want just one cup to perk up, or end the meal with, "
pirri said: "I ask because you may want something else." "I’m not gonna waste perfectly good coffee on your bitchass and pour it anyway."
http://bluepersdiary.com/2014/01/30/10-questions-servers-get-everyday-and-how-they-wish-they-could-respond/comment-page-3/#comments
Catherine O'Neill said it like it TRULY IS: "everyone’s different. when im serving you im working for you. i dont want to spend a lot of time on this social routine of meaningless “questions” about how youre doing. id rather get right to work. i prefer service to be courteous and efficient. im not about the bullshit."
My point is she said "EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT" is RIGHT.
See all the people that TOTALLY 100% DISAGREE WITH YOU MORON, HUH?
DeuceBigOhWOW
Found other people that agree with me:
Fire said: "You’d be surprised how many people, don’t want water or more coffee"
jenn said: "but this person has clearly never been a waiter because sometimes people only want one cup of coffee, many people only want soda not water,"
jenn also said: "All of the questions waiters ask are valid because not everyone answers the same way."
She said what I have *****BEENNNNN PREACHING TO EVERYONE********. Not everyone wants the same things. While I usually take my food home, if I didn't think it was that wonderful I may not take my leftovers home or if we don't have an ice chest to take it home, we won't.
Typo
"I am not telling you how to spend my hard earned money to tip with,"
I mean to say your hard earned money.
Sorry.
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One more thing.
You say: “if they take orders one at a time as you suggest, everyone waits too long.”
It's just not true. Just as Stef319 said, once you put in the order, it's getting worked on or beat the next server or bartender putting a food order into the computer next in the line per say.
For example, let's say like real life what really happened at Outback in 2005, a waiter was triple sat that we had. We happened to be the first table out the 3 to get seated and greeted. Second table had like 4 or 5 people at it, can't remember. The 3rd table had 2 people. The way he did it was like you. It took 11 MINUTES(3 minutes of waiting just to get greeted), to get 2 cokes, that's right, 2 cokes, because he got 7 other drinks(if it was 5 people at the other table) unfairly so. He also even gave someone at the 2nd table theirs off the tray even before ours even. That REALLY pissed me the fuck off. I will give you at least you serve things off the tray in the correct order as you mentioned. Anyway, that's a long time to wait to give your food orders and it's a VERY long time to get 2 cokes. He also did the same thing as you with the food orders. That means 7 people CUT in front of our turn. WHY did we wait for a table in order if that's how it was going to be, huh? Seriously, you are UNFAIR. You are also wrong. If he would have done it the way it's supposed to go, our drinks and food would have came out A LOT, A LOT SOONER. Our cokes, probably within 5 minutes of being seated since he didn't greet us until 3 minutes into being seated, so total time 5 minutes. He would have taken our food orders, gone to tell the next table he'd be right with them and gone to put our food orders in. We would have gotten our food A LOT FASTER. Then the 2nd table same thing. I would say after getting each table's drink order to the next table "I'll be right with you all, I have been triple sat, so it I apologize for the longer wait than usual." I would do that for each table. The 2nd table wouldn't have had to wait for the 3rd table's ordering or drink fixing. So the only people that wait a long time doing it me and Stef319's way is the 3rd table.
Doing it your way makes EVERYONE WAIT LONGER except the 3rd table gets to CUT in front of OUR TIME AND TURN. You are UNFAIR and WRONG.
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Any manager that had some common sense would know that the longer we sit to WAIT TO GET OUR ORDERS OR EVEN GIVE OUR ORDERS, THE LONGER FOR SURE WE ARE THERE. Why not help people waiting for a table as well? You are causing them to sit there 10-15 extra minutes maybe even more because the way you did it, now other server's tables and the bartender's food orders that have occurred during that entire time you didn't go to the computer while you were taking the 2nd and 3rd table's orders have gone on the list BEFORE OURS. Think about it. If I order let's say I order an appetizer and we order 2 entrées. You don't go to the computer, you are causing them to possibly run into each other the courses first off by not going to put in the appetizer order. Also, even if you go to the put in the appetizer order, but go get all 9 drinks(ours and theirs), we may receive the appetizer by the time you do all of that. It has happened where we were served an appetizer before even getting our drinks even or a margarita from a runner at Outback once brought that before my coke, like WTF??? I understand maybe if you have to change the syrup that could happen MAYBE, but honestly I have changed syrups before, it's not a long process, it's fast and easy.
My main point is, if you wait to put in my order, all of those other people that have other servers in the restaurant that are ordering and putting things into the computer BEFORE I get mine, which means if I order cheese fries at 7:04p.m., the server in the next section has an order at 7:10p.m. she just put in that ordered at 7:09p.m. for the same item made the same way, but my server doesn't put the order in for mine until 7:12p.m., guess whose food comes out first UNFAIRLY SO? That's not fair I waited LONGER for my food and I ORDERED WAYYYY THE HELL BEFORE that other customer.
You just don't see you are wrong, do you?
Everyone waits longer(except for the 3rd table who gets to cut) the longer you wait to put the order into the computer no matter what. Doing it our way, there would be less tables waiting longer. That *IS* the GOD'S TRUTH and you know it. Doing it your way makes 2 tables instead of just 1 wait longer. The way I and Stef319 says to do it is to be FAIR if you expect a good tip. You can't CUT, then expect a good tip.
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A lot of servers don't want to admit YES you can control how long we wait for a table by the mistakes you make, by not letting us order, and by not putting the order into the computer as quickly as you can on purpose(meaning it wasn't a mistake that you forgot about it).
Now, you can't control if they stay longer after they are finished, but in general most people leave when they are finished.
You don't get that A LOT of orders within even just 2-3 minutes have gone into the computer from another server at another computer or bartender beating our stuff out when we placed our order WELL BEFORE THEIRS. It's UNFAIR. It's also making us sit there longer. You do realize you could get us out of there sooner if you go put the order in, right? I mean, that's common sense. Also, doing things in order as well like you said you agree with it, but some servers don't. Like if I ask for my check, the next table as you pass by calls you over to ask for their check, rather than printing out both checks, honestly, you should print out the 1st table's check, make a trip to their table to bring it, then go back to the computer print their check. WHY? Because it's costing the 1st table their time is why, that's why. You have LOTS OF CONTROL OVER HOW LONG WE WAIT FOR THINGS, even waiting for a table for the most part even.
Obviously, you have an answer for everything. Your mind is set that if isn't SPECIFICALLY what you want, the way you want, it's bad service. Well, that's how life is sometimes, shit happens. Unfortunately for those unlucky servers that shit is YOU!
I hope one day you'll realize that the world does not revolve around you. There's a difference between being human and acting like one. I believe that includes being considerate to fellow human beings. Who knows maybe that day will come when your husband, who dines with you a lot, gets tired of your unreasonable rants about sides of condiments and leaves your ass.
Try to be nice for one day and you'll see it's a much better feeling than being extremely bitchy.
Giveandreceive
"Well, that's how life is sometimes, shit happens."
If that's how servers feel, then SHIT with their tip. HOW DOES THAT FEEL HUH UNCARING ASSHOLE?
"Unfortunately for those unlucky servers that shit is YOU!"
Only the lazy and uncaring servers feel that way, which obviously is ****YOU*****, if not a server, then just a lazy and uncaring worker.
"I hope one day you'll realize that the world does not revolve around you."
The world doesn't revolve around the SERVER'S ********TIPS********, it goes ****BOTH WAYS UNCARING ASSHOLE*****. Caring is a 2-way street. Most servers have such ONE-SIDE CARING in them.
"There's a difference between being human and acting like one. I believe that includes being considerate to fellow human beings."
Considerate I am ***VERY MUCH SO**. I don't tell them I am ready to order when I am not(I tell them I need more time). I tell them everything I need in one trip(unless the rare time I forget something and when I do forget something I say I am sorry like a good decent human being would, which when they forget something, 95% of the times they don't say they are sorry, but I say I am sorry.)
Considerate servers would compare their written orders to the food for obvious errors to think about SOMEONE ELSE'S FEELINGS, NOT JUST THEIR OWN. Considerate servers would compare the menu prices to the check prices and when a wrong overcharge price is brought to their attention, considerate servers would apologize and not lie or make excuses as A NUMBER of servers have like "It's the computer" or "The newer menus aren't out yet" or "It's a misprint." I want to fucking ring their fucking necks when they are SO SELFISH TO LIE TO MY FACE LIKE THAT. I mean all they have to do is say "I'm so sorry let me go get a manager to fix this." THAT'S IT. They don't have to make EXCUSES to my face to LIE to me about it. If I can catch the wrong numbers on a piece of paper called the check, SO CAN THEY. They aren't blind or illiterate. I know they can't change the price themselves in the computer, but they can get the manager to fix it just as they do when I show them. The thing is, they don't ********CARE ABOUT MY MONEY******* and that's the ISSUE HERE that it's **NOT CONSIDERATE OF OUR MONEY, TIME, OR FEELINGS*****. It's SELFISH that they aren't checking things *BEFORE* they "SERVE" it to us for things they can control. It's not considerate to make the customer do ****THEIR JOB***** that they want *US* to *PAY THEM FOR*, is it?
It's not considerate when they hand things off of a tray in the wrong order not thinking about if it was *THEM* that they don't like someone to cut in front of them when they are hungry and thirsty.
It's not considerate for them to make 1 person wait 15 minutes for a coke, because they are too lazy to come to the table all because 4 other people at the table all ordered bar drinks and it's not considerate that during that time, food orders could have been given and put into the computer well before that 15 minutes is up.
Considerate is not going to 2 or 3 tables without them calling them over before they put your order into the computer making you wait an extra 5-10 minutes more for your food and then the excuse that it's the kitchen's fault that the food is taking too long or the bartender's fault the drink is taking too long.
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Considerate would be not to go buss a table instead of putting in my order.
Considerate would be not to LIE about any mistakes like I had one bitch waitress that I told nicely I had ordered salt on my margarita at Outback when she brought it without salt. Instead of being nice saying she was SORRY, NO, she said "He didn't put it on there." I WANTED TO RING HER FUCKING NECK, because she couldn't accept that she's at fault for **BRINGING IT TO ME OBVIOUSLY WRONG**. I saw it before she even put it on my table even. Instead of being nice saying "Oh, I'm sorry", NO she couldn't be nice, could she? Very inconsiderate, because for her to say that ADMITS that she didn't even **********TRY********** to serve it to me correctly by comparing her written order the the bar drink glass to see, DUHH, is there salt or isn't there salt on the rim. Without a drink you can see if salt is on the rim of a glass, WHY put blame on someone else? She blamed the bartender. No, the bartender is not at fault, because I am not sitting at the bar being served it directly from him. I am being served it by MY SERVER that took my order that has EYES that can ****SEE***** what she is bringing me for something VERY OBVIOUS is missing or wrong with it.
Being considerate would be being nice. A lot of servers are assholes just like that.
Considerate would be to get their pad and pen write ******EVERYTHING DOWN I ASK FOR SO THEY CAN ******TRY NOT TO FORGET SOMETHING OR MESS UP SOMETHING.
Considerate would be to ask more than one person at the table if they want something as well. It’s like they want to run off hoping to not do work is what I am finding.
We had a waitress at On the Border say "I don't know why the cook plated 2 sets of beans." First off, she actually ended up putting in the order wrong(she rung up an extra side of beans because I had ordered a side of bbq sauce, which she said she thought bb was bbq sauce, not black beans. Secondly, the meal came with rice and beans, which my husband ordered it as it came with rice and beans. So the rice was missing, which our waitress since she brought it out could have noticed this. Anyway, my point is, she blamed the kitchen staff when it was her fault TWICE for fucking up. 1. She put in the order wrong. 2. She SERVED it to us OBVIOUSLY WRONG with a rice side dish MISSING and an extra side of beans that wasn't ordered. Was that "CONSIDERATE" to just trust the kitchen staff and not think of the customer's *********FEELINGS AND TIME************ as well as just their HAPPINESS******? No, it wasn't. It was no mistake. She admitted so by saying "I don't know why the cook plated 2 sets of beans." If she would have verified it, she wouldn't have said that. Also, it's rather obvious when it was pretty slow and only 2 people that you miss an entire side dish rice that COMES with the item and the extra black beans that wasn't ordered. I would say even if she didn't say that, no way she would have messed up that much.
My point is, she wasn't considerate of our feelings or time. She wasn't a nice person. A nice and considerate person ********CARES************* about what they are serving you for things they can control.
"Who knows maybe that day will come when your husband, who dines with you a lot, gets tired of your unreasonable rants about sides of condiments and leaves your ass."
Tell me how is it "unreasonable" to think that someone that you are *******VOLUNTARILY PAYING********* will not care about your tip money you are paying with?
There isn't ONE THING that's unreasonable and you know it. You are an UNCARING BITCH!
If **YOU** only like the food a certain way you'd feel ******ENTIRELY DIFFERENT***** and you know it. The entire point I go to some restaurants is because they have good ranch or good tartar sauce, etc.
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You don't understand that without the condiments, the food I don't want to eat it. I wouldn't eat it, period.
So why do you think it's "unreasonable" for someone to ******CARE********* about you if they want *******YOUR MONEY********, huh?
Why can't this thing called tipping be EQUAL that you care about me and I will care about you, huh?
Servers don't like the cheap people that tip 10% for excellent service or tip less or nothing, right? They have every right to be pissed because they got treated like royalty and got treated like dog shit in the tip. It's not fair.
So I understand their side, you and a lot other servers don't understand ours obviously. Why can't most servers be NICE, CARING, and NOT SO SELFISH?
I just recently some months ago had a waitress that we had gone to a restaurant for the 1st time tell us that any first time customers get a free half order of fried pickles. I had mentioned it to our waitress since I for some reason was reading the menu and not noticing they had mustard on the table already(I had asked for some when ordering). So she forgets the 3 sides of mayo which obviously she didn't verify the food before bringing it out since you don't miss 3 entire containers for only 2 people's food when one person's food(my husband's food was ordered as it came even) if you truly verified each plate with her written order before she brought out the food. I told her about it nicely, she didn't apologize. Then when we asked for the check, the FIRST ITEM was the fried pickles NOT voided. I had told her nicely about it, instead of her saying she was sorry, NO, she said "THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT OFF." I wanted to ring her neck(not literally, but was fuming when she said such a mean thing). I understand no server can take discounts off, but she was responsible for getting SOMEONE to take it off. If I were her, I would have said I was sorry for the mayos forgotten. I would have also said I was "SO SORRY about that" for the overcharge, even would have at least asked the manager if they could take a coke off the bill for the customer's inconvenience since it was $3.99 overcharge, which is a lot unlike at times where I have been overcharged cents. Anyway, even when she came back, she didn't say she was sorry. I was so floored. I truly believe she could have possibly done it intentionally to blame someone else like that and not to apologize for it. Especially it was the FIRST ITEM on the check. Anyway, we did stiff her. WHY? Her lying about who was at fault by blaming someone else. Not taking credit. Not apologizing as she could have and should have. Normally at times we tip 20%-25%-30% and more for excellent service. If she would have just forgotten the mayos and not overcharged us, because no apology for the mayos would have received 12%. If she would have said she was sorry 16% for the mayos if she wouldn't have overcharged us. If she would have apologized for both mayos as well as the overcharges and done what I would have done for the overcharge if I were the server, she would have received 19%.
So tell me **HOW** is it "unreasonable" I should feel my server should *****CARE******** ********EQUALLY ABOUT MY MONEY AS MUCH AS THEY WANT US TO CARE ABOUT THEIRS, HUH?
WHY is it all ONE-SIDED JUST TO THEM, but OUR MONEY IS NOTHING, DIRT?
So I am supposed to care about that bitch by her saying "So they didn't take it off" as if it's not her fault? Why didn't she just say "I'm sorry, let me get a manager to take it off."???
Instead she was an UNCARING BITCH.
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You act like that I can help this or something. My feelings are what they are. Everything touches my heart they do. If they do something well like impress me with offering to bring out my condiments before my meal, I'm impressed and see they care about me. If they write all my request down I ask for WITHOUT me having to ask them to, I see that they *CARE* about remembering the things I said. I see the good and the bad. Some servers ask you if you would like your food boxed up, which is nice that they offer it. Some servers offer you refills to-go which is nice. Most servers don't want to do one extra thing.
You just don't understand that all I want is someone to *******CARE********** about me if they want **********MY TIP MONEY I DO NOT LAWFULLY HAVE TO PAY THEM******. If you want my money, BE NICE, BE CARING, DON'T BE SELFISH AND DON'T BE LAZY. How is that so HORRIBLE? Why give a lot of money to someone that didn't give a damn about me and made my dining experience miserable, huh? That makes no sense to pay them well to treat me like dirt. All the waitress that overcharged us had to do was just be NICE. That was too much for her I guess to actually treat us like human beings.
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How is it so unreasonable to think when you go to a restaurant and the server wants a tip from you that you DON'T "HAVE" to give them that they won't *********CARE********** about what they are bringing you for things they can control, huh?
It's unreasonable for the server to think they should get 20% for not giving a fuck about our food, drinks, and checks being right for the things they can control with the items.
It's unreasonable to think that you should get paid well to be LAZY AND UNCARING.
I know what I would and wouldn't deserve, but a lot of servers seem to feel very entitled not matter how they treat you or what they do.
For example, the servers the 4 servers that said "You might have to remind me" when I ordered a bunch of condiments. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT "CONSIDERATE" or even "REASONABLE" asking for the customer to do *THEIR JOB** when they want OUR MONEY?
You just don't get that it hurts my feelings for days, months, YEARS later. That On the Border thing was Valentine's Day 2010. I did have to look up the year since I remember doing the survey, so I had it in word and I had remembered her name even. I remember everything that happened though.
You just don't understand that I am a nice person and I expect someone that wants MY MONEY to be nice back. HOW is that sooooo unreasonable, huh?
Giveandreceive
We had this one waitress probably in 2008 I believe say "I DON'T ADD IT UP" when we had 2 prices that were combined together on our check wrong. Does that sound like a "CONSIDERATE" server to ***ADMIT**** that she didn't **********TRY******** TO CATCH THIS JUST LIKE I THOUGHT. What happened was that I had mentioned that she was supposed to check our check and that's when she said "I don't add it up." See how she was mean *FIRST* to not ****************************CARE ABOUT OUR MONEY TO ADD IT UP)? $21.99 plus $4.99 to add crawfish. If you add 22 plus 5 is $27. Our amount we got billed was $28.48($1.50 overcharge) and my husband ordered this item as it came, no modifications.
So I had EVERY RIGHT to be a bitch to her. She was a bitch to US by not checking our money to make sure she didn't overcharge us. She showed she didn't *CARE* about our money, but expects the customer to care about hers, WHY O' WHY is this ONE-SIDED CARING ALWAYS GOING ON IN RESTAURANTS SO SELFISH?
WHY do you servers NOT CARE ABOUT OUR MONEY, BUT YOU EXPECT US TO CARE ABOUT YOURS? WTF?? I DON'T GET IT??
YOUR MONEY IS NOT HOLIER THAN THOU. IT'S ***JUST AS IMPORTANT AS OURS**.
No one task is any more important than the other meaning someone's refill or food is just as important as someone check not getting overcharged.
I just couldn't believe she said "I don't add it up" as if she doesn't have to do that like her money is only important here.
Don't you get that it still *******HURTS TO THIS DAY THAT BITCH DID THAT TO US?
It's not the $1.50, it's her *******ATTITUDE THAT SHE COULD HAVE CARED LESS ABOUT OUR MONEY.
She should have been NICE. I think she may have said a sorry in there, but it doesn't mean anything when you say "I don't add it up" which is ADMITTING not trying.
If she tried and then this happened, that's different, but I bet if she would have compared the menu prices to the check prices as ******WE ENDED UP HAVING TO DO HER JOB FOR HER***, she would have noticed this and we wouldn't have gotten this inconvenience and unhappiness we had at our table.
I just couldn't believe she admitted she didn't try. That shows and PROVES she didn't care about our money, but she expected the customer to care about hers. WHY? Why servers think their money is ABOVE OURS?
I just don't get why a lot of servers are so selfish, lazy, and uncaring people? WHY they want to ruin people's happiness? Why can't they just DO THEIR JOB?(which is charge the customer correctly is part of their job.)
Admitting you didn't try says to me "I didn't care if I overcharged you and gave myself extra tip(because the higher the amount the higher the tip).
This was NO MISTAKE and that's what hurts. That she did this intentionally meaning that she intentionally decided to be lazy and uncaring about our money. It's exactly like not studying for a test. That's intentional. Same thing, no effort was intentional.
If it would have been a real mistake that she would have compared the menu prices to the check prices to have "added it up", **THEN** that would have been a real mistake if she didn't catch it. She admitted she didn't by saying that though.
See how I had EVERY RIGHT to not be so nice to her about it? She wasn't nice FIRST. You don't see how servers are the ones that are the assholes when they do this uncaring, lazy shit?
Giveandreceive
A good caring server you wouldn't have to tell the server to "add it up" or tell them to compare the advertised menu prices to the check to make sure the customer is not overcharged.
A good caring server wouldn't have said "They didn't take it off" to not to credit for their mistakes.
A good caring server you wouldn't have to tell them to check the food for anything obvious that's wrong BEFORE they leave the kitchen.
Understand what I am saying? They expect us to care about them by paying them when lawfully we don't have to, so why can't they care about us if they want our money, huh?
You must eat out a LOT! Sounds like you've visited a lot of shitty restaurants with all your horror stories.
Chevy Giggle
"Wow, you're crazy."
No, you are just an UNCARING human being.
"Talk about first world problems."
As I said above, you are a VERY UNCARING human being.
" Why don't you put your energy into something that actually matters rather than your nit-picky ways."
It matters A LOT to me UNCARING ASSHOLE! FUCK YOU!
I sure bet there's something that bothers you that I could care less about such as I am not registered to vote and could care less about that shit.
"I would love to know what you do for work."
Work in an office. WHY? What does that matter?
"Which is good thing because I know I would want to slap people like you."
Why, because you are VERY LAZY?
"I wonder how many times servers have spit or sneezed on your food..?"
Must not be *ANY* since I NEVER ONCE gotten sick. Also, if they aren't sick, does it really matter HONESTLY?
"Something to think about next time you decide to treat another human being like your own personal fucking slave just because you're paying $15 for a burger."
I am a VERY NICE PERSON, even **NICER** than most servers are to me. WHY is it I say I am sorry if I forget to ask for something, but they don't say they are sorry in most cases if they forget something? They aren't nice to not apologize. I tell them "thank you" even though I don't get a sorry. That's how much NICER I am than they are to me. I am not mean.
They are your slave, because they are there to ******WORK FOR ***********YOUR TIP*********.
You sound VERY, EXTREMELY ************LAZY ASS*********** AS ALL FUCK to say they aren't your slave. They sure are there to get you your every need and want(within reason of course). I wouldn't expect them to shine my silverware, but I sure would expect them to notice if I have any silverware for example.
They had a lady at the donut shop/diner I used to work for back between 1998-2002 off and on a little over 2yrs worth which I was counter help asked me to wet a napkin. THAT'S SLAVE WORK. That isn't my job. My job is to get you a napkin, but wetting it is YOUR JOB as the customer. I think the issue was that the bathroom was occupied and she wanted to wash her kids hands. The thing is, I would NEVER IN MY WILDEST DREAMS ask a worker to do that for me. That's not their job. The only way I would is to give them a dollar if I was that lazy and impatient before they person did it even.
So next time you say "slave", just know that I *KNOW* what it means. I wasn't that lady's slave. I worked for tips just much less than a server would make and I made at least min. wage.
You know NOTHING!
"Be realalistic."
You be realistic. I am VERY REALISTIC.
People are paying ****THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY so YEAH, they should work as **HARD*** as they can for it.
"Get off your high horse then pull the giant stick out of your ass."
You need to do that. I am expecting someone to work hard for the tip I don't "HAVE" to give them. HOW HORRIBLE IS THAT? How unreasonable is that? Seriously, that's not unreasonable at all, NOT AT ALL STUPID LAZY IDIOT! You must be the lazy worker to have that attitude, because anyone that is a hard worker would NEVER have that attitude, EVER!
Springs1isaPSYCHOPATH
"Springs said:
They are your slave, because they are there to ******WORK FOR ***********YOUR TIP*********.
"You deserve to get your ass kicked for that stupid comment!!!""
HOW is it "stupid" to tell the *******GOD'S TRUTH*********, huh?
They work for us customers if they want our money, so YEAH, they are our slave(as I said, within reason being I don't expect them to wet a napkin for me like that lady did and then not tip me anything for it.) I refused her, yes I did. Someone else was working with me that shift, so they did it like an idiot. I refuse to do something that's the customer's job. That's ridiculous. My job was to serve food, drinks, restock, mop, sweep, clean up, wipe down the tables and counter, clean the bathrooms, refill the showcase with donuts by going in the back to fill or powder them, ring someone up, give them change or credit card receipt, etc., not to wet napkins. You don't seem to understand that I know what slave work is. You think that working like a slave is your basic things that you serve, but that's not what a slave worker is. Another thing a slave worker would be that if a mother of a child that isn't ordering anything ask if you can warm up their baby bottle. Sorry, but first off, that's unsanitary germ thing that you can't do that, but also, if the child isn't ordering anything, why should they get some work out of something they brought from home? That's slave work.
My point is, WHY do you say it's a "stupid" comment? You sure must not be a "HARD WORKER" to say it's stupid, because anyone that is a hard worker wouldn't dare say it's stupid, because they know the *TRUTH* that the server is working for the customer's tip money. That's how tipping works MORON! Sure, if you have a large party with automatic gratuity it doesn't work that way, but most people aren't in that large of a party and some restaurants don't even have automatic gratuity. Also, it does discourage some people from giving more by putting the tip beforehand. In most cases though, my server is dependent on the ******CUSTOMER******** for what money they have to pay their bills with and you know it. It's not stupid, it's the ********GOD'S TRUTH****** and you know it. What an IDIOT you are!
Oh dear... I truly wasn't going to say anything on here... and honestly, I haven't even been serving long. But some of the things you mention is this 'blog' are disturbing to say the least. I have been serving a whole 3 months. I work at a bar and grill. Before this I worked in fast food. (Pizza hut, Subway etc) Since I was sixteen I have worked with angry customers, making sure that I fix any and all problems that I can. And this was when I was working fast food. I have outstanding customer service skills and am usually able to make an angry customer happy.
When I started serving, it wasn't for the hourly wage... People told me that because of my skills in customer satisfaction and my people skills, that serving would be perfect. So I tried it. I absolutely love my customers and the job as a whole. However, customers like you worry me. Im still very new to the business. But I can tell you, no server likes when someone is so picky. Even when they say hi the next time you come in, they are thinking 'Damnit' in their heads.
Servers are paid next to nothing. And we count on tips to make ends meat. We are here to make your experience enjoyable and as painless as possible. You keep saying that people do not have manners on here or whatever... but what confuses me... You don't want refills without being asked. And if you get them without being asked you refuse to say 'No thank you?' Okay... fair enough. ...
I know you are the customer, and the customer is ALWAYS right. You are right to say how you want your service to be. But thats all your right about. Serving takes practice. It takes really understanding the menu, people and the restaurant business. I went in thinking I knew exactly what to do, and got a rude awakening. You really CANNOT understand what is to serve if you have never truly done it.
I have tables everyday that love me to get them refills without interrupting conversation. And love when I write 'Thank you! Have a lovely day! :)' Hell, I have written 'Happy Birthday' and all sorts of things. I even have customers write back sometimes!! The other day I got a 'Thank you for the great service' on the back of a ticket. The guy servers do the same where I work. Every one. I have had people request me, and even customers who are regulars talk to me while I am walking by. Who aren't in my section. But here's the thing. I still make a lot of mistakes. Most will understand, and explain to me it iisn't a problem. Then there are others who don't. And thats fine its just another table.
I had a customer one time when it was my first couple weeks... it was a 6 top. (Table of 6) and an older guy ordered a Chicken Pot Pie and a side salad. I was still learning menu items and what not. I explained I was still really new to the table. But if anything went wrong I would try my best to fix it. I charged the guy for the items and did not realize he could add a salad for just $1.99. When I brought the ticket out I said 'If anything doesn't look right, let me know and I will fix it.' Then it happened. This guy freaked out... called me out in front of my other tables and all. I tried explaining I simply didnt know the menu well yet and offered to go fix it. Which I did. He Wasn't going to tip me at all... His wife was with him though, and chewed his ass for how he treated me.
We are SERVERS. Not slaves.. We want respect as well as you.
Oh dear... I truly wasn't going to say anything on here... and honestly, I haven't even been serving long. But some of the things you mention is this 'blog' are disturbing to say the least. I have been serving a whole 3 months. I work at a bar and grill. Before this I worked in fast food. (Pizza hut, Subway etc) Since I was sixteen I have worked with angry customers, making sure that I fix any and all problems that I can. And this was when I was working fast food. I have outstanding customer service skills and am usually able to make an angry customer happy.
When I started serving, it wasn't for the hourly wage... People told me that because of my skills in customer satisfaction and my people skills, that serving would be perfect. So I tried it. I absolutely love my customers and the job as a whole. However, customers like you worry me. Im still very new to the business. But I can tell you, no server likes when someone is so picky. Even when they say hi the next time you come in, they are thinking 'Damnit' in their heads.
Servers are paid next to nothing. And we count on tips to make ends meat. We are here to make your experience enjoyable and as painless as possible. You keep saying that people do not have manners on here or whatever... but what confuses me... You don't want refills without being asked. And if you get them without being asked you refuse to say 'No thank you?' Okay... fair enough. ...
I know you are the customer, and the customer is ALWAYS right. You are right to say how you want your service to be. But thats all your right about. Serving takes practice. It takes really understanding the menu, people and the restaurant business. I went in thinking I knew exactly what to do, and got a rude awakening. You really CANNOT understand what is to serve if you have never truly done it.
I have tables everyday that love me to get them refills without interrupting conversation. And love when I write 'Thank you! Have a lovely day! :)' Hell, I have written 'Happy Birthday' and all sorts of things. I even have customers write back sometimes!! The other day I got a 'Thank you for the great service' on the back of a ticket. The guy servers do the same where I work. Every one. I have had people request me, and even customers who are regulars talk to me while I am walking by. Who aren't in my section. But here's the thing. I still make a lot of mistakes. Most will understand, and explain to me it iisn't a problem. Then there are others who don't. And thats fine its just another table.
I had a customer one time when it was my first couple weeks... it was a 6 top. (Table of 6) and an older guy ordered a Chicken Pot Pie and a side salad. I was still learning menu items and what not. I explained I was still really new to the table. But if anything went wrong I would try my best to fix it. I charged the guy for the items and did not realize he could add a salad for just $1.99. When I brought the ticket out I said 'If anything doesn't look right, let me know and I will fix it.' Then it happened. This guy freaked out... called me out in front of my other tables and all. I tried explaining I simply didnt know the menu well yet and offered to go fix it. Which I did. He Wasn't going to tip me at all... His wife was with him though, and chewed his ass for how he treated me.
We are SERVERS. Not slaves.. We want respect as well as you.
I can assure you that there are bad servers out there. And that I totally see where you come from. And I agree with a lot of your points. It is all about the customer. But you honestly just need to cut people a break sometimes. I love to make people smile and make them happy. And when I make someone angry it truly bothers me. I am very sensitive to my customers. The man I talked about earlier put me in tears. You simply cannot expect servers to follow your every need especially if they haven't served you before. Maybe after they get to know you better. But at my job (I cannot speak for anyone else) we are required to refill drinks without interrupting the conversation/meal. We are required to bring out certain things. Yes we will remove it from your table if its not wanted. However... it is a two way street. If you wish to have good service, have good manners. (I.e. 'No thank you)
A restaurant is supposed to work as a team. Expo, food runners, the cooks, the managers, the host/ess, and the to gos. Then we have dishwasher and busser. At my bar and grill, we tip out the busser, the expo and the bar. And we need to trust these people to do the jobs they are given. If something goes amiss, it isn't always the servers fault. And certain things do go wrong and are out of the servers hands. Managers need to approve a lot at my work. So it takes some time to get some things done. Sometimes expo doesnt send out ranch, but truly an easy fix.
All I am saying... is if you stress servers out and don't have manners, or are just too difficult, you become one of those tables. One where we just try to get through as simply as possible and prey that we never see them again. I love my customers. I love my co workers.
I will never come back to this blog again. So if you would like to copy and paste my text so you can prove it wrong go ahead. This article became a joke after a minute. I just dont understand how you are so Arrogant about something you just dont have a clue about. You know the consumer part yes. Ill give you that. But so does 95 percent of the population. Serving is not as easy as it seems.
So best of wishes in your dining adventures. And please, for every server in your futures sake, try and be more understanding. Have a wonderful day hun.
Springs1isaPSYCHOPATH
"There's nothing unsanitary about warming up a baby's bottle. "
Outside food, sorry, but YEAH, if you introduce it to the kitchen area(the microwave), you sure are getting ***GERMS*** into the microwave area, the handle of the microwave and when you close it. Yes you are sure introducing bacteria from someone else's home or wherever they just left from.
You are VERY WRONG on this.
"So you would deny food to a baby because you wouldn't get tipped for it?"
No, because that's not the server's job to serve food or drinks that aren't a part of the restaurant IDIOT. If it was milk the customer actually is ***PAYING****** for then YES I would do it, but NOT their own milk from home that the mother isn't purchasing anything for this baby, NO. If they are a PAYING customer I would do it. Understand?
"Sounds ***********UNCARING*********and*********LAZY********to me. "
No, it has to do with that if it's not a product of the restaurant then how is it the server's job to serve it, huh? Tell me that STUPID IDIOT, huh?
As I said, *IF* they choose to buy milk from the restaurant, *THEN* I would warm it up. The way I am thinking about it, they'd have milk in the baby bottle already most likely.
"I don't believe you know a thing about hard work."
Yes, I got a raise of 35 cents back in 1998 from min. wage my very first job $5.15 to $5.50 within a month and a half at the donut shop/diner I worked for. WHY, because I **PROVED** to them I was a hard worker and still am.
"I don't believe you even have a job,"
I do, I work in an office 40hrs a week, once in a while an hour or so of overtime even.
"let alone have worked in some stupid little donut shop where all you do is pour coffee all day."
I didn't just pour coffee all day MORON.
We had drive-thru, the counter, and some 2-seater tables. I served inside, to-go orders, and drive-thru as counter help. I served people eating inside just like a waitress, but on a much smaller level than one since there's not as many customers. I rung people up, gave them change. Served them food and drinks. Gave them any condiments they needed. Restocked, cleaned up everything from the counter to the bathrooms, mopped, swept, restocked the showcase of donuts by helping the people in the back fill donuts and powder them, cleaned the dishes, z-out the register, etc.
I didn't just pour coffee all day moron.
"I don't believe a word you say!"
I am not lying. That's up to you if you wish to not believe me, but I am telling you the GOD'S TRUTH. What reason would I have to lie, huh?
"I don't believe you are married, who would put up with your crazy shit?"
Since 2002 I have been married. We met through the internet.
"I don't believe you only weigh 100 lbs. how could you, with all the damn ranch and mayo that you eat."
I just weighed myself tonight 97 and 1/4lbs. I am not even 100lbs. I DIET. Every Friday I eat less than 500 calories makes me lose 2lbs in a day. If I slightly under 1,000 calories, I lose 1 lb a day. I do the 1 lb weight loss one other day during the week.
The idea is to lose the weight once you gain it or lose it before you gain it. Doing this every week I get back to my weight. Sure, once in while got up to 101-102lbs at times, but I go back down once I see that. The most I ever weighed was 106lbs back for about 6 months in 1999. That's the biggest I have ever gotten. You have to remember I am ONLY 5 FEET tall, ZERO inches, meaning I am SHORT. I am not tall, so that is a normal weight for my height.
"I don't believe you are nice to ****ANYONE****"
I am, you aren't nice.
"I don't even believe you are human!!
I am very much human.
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"I ****DO**** believe you are a resentful, fat, lazy, childish, selfish bitch."
I am NONE of those things except for resentful. I am not lazy FARRRR FROM IT. When I am low on work, I am always asking for more work to not be bored. Seriously, at one job I had I chose to VACUUM while the server was down at the office I worked at, while the other ones sat on their asses chit chatting, I *CHOSE* to do work. WHY? To accomplish something, because I was bored and wanted to make the time pass by. Why not accomplish something?
I am not fat as I said before. I have been dieting since highschool, which back then I kept my weight around 90lbs-92lbs or so.
I am not childish and I am not a selfish bitch. If I were selfish, I wouldn't tip MORON.
Resentful, because I don't like when things are unfair. I don't see ANYTHING wrong with that. NOBODY likes things to be unfair, even you.
"I ****DO**** believe you have a severe personality disorder. Seriously, you're a nut job!! You need some heavy meds, like some lithium maybe."
NO, YOU DO though. How am I a nut to you, huh? Because I have ******FEELINGS******* and you don't that means I am nuts, WTF??
Springs1isaPSYCHOPATH
"And you just don't get that nobody agrees with you."
READ AND WEEP:
Yes a number of people, here it goes:
http://howtobeagoodserver.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-be-good-server-in-restaurant.html?commentPage=6
MMTLori:
” As a server, I want to say that I appreciate your post. I know it is several years old but I plan on printing off this blog and showing it to the servers that I work with. You bring up some very excellent points about service and what a guest expects from their servers. I first read this run down about a year ago and began implementing some of these thoughts into my service. I have noticed that I have become a better server because of it. Thanks! August 3, 2012 9:59 PM”
Next:
http://archive.slickdeals.net/f/600104-Thoughts-on-Tipping-in-Restaurants?sduid=249745&p=7915572&highlight=springs1#post7915572
Demosthenes9 said:
“Absolutely right. As a waiter, it was ultimately my responsibility to ensure that EVERYTHING was correct with your food. The funny thing is, if waiters took the time to pay attention to the little details like the one’s Spring mentioned, they would actually have MORE time on their hands to take care of customers. Afterall, it takes maybe 30 seconds to check over an order and make sure it’s correct. Failure to do so means that you now have to go all the way back to the kitchen, argue with a cook, get a replacement side item, then carry it back out to the table. That time could have been better spent taking care of other tables instead.”
Next:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/tipping-2337603/index27.html
flowwiththego said:
“Springs does make some good points. In my experience, at least half the time if not more it is the servers fault when food takes too long. for example, I hate when the servers hold their tix and put in 4 (or even three) at once. They are not allowed to do that. So the first table has to wait extra long and other servers got tix in also. I can’t tell you how many times someone will say they have been here for 45 minutes and the tix time says they were 20 minutes.”
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This woman I wrote to at first didn’t agree, but then as I got writing to her, you will see she agreed and then came on my blog to agree with me:
http://stef319.hubpages.com/hub/Confessions-of-A-Food-Server
stef319
“I definitely know where you’re coming from with servers, though. I will agree that 90% of our servers ARE lazy. They drive me crazy; as lazy as they are with their tables (who are providing their tips), imagine how lazy they are when it’s time to do sidework and help clean the restaurant. They’re always on their cell phones, outside smoking cigarettes, flirting with the cooks, when they should be paying attention to their guests. And I bet they get your orders wrong all the time because you’re right-they are lazy. They expect a 20% tip always. They wonder why they get “stiffed” on a tip sometimes. It’s because they didn’t deserve a tip! That’s why I said that I don’t want other servers taking my food out. I don’t trust them at all. They don’t read the kitchen slips, they bring a steak out without a steak knife, they forget sides, and they auction off food. It ends up costing me more time cause not only do I have to apologize for their order delivery not being correct, but I still have to go back to the kitchen and get whatever they forgot. And god forbid that the guest asks THEM for something because not only will they not get it, but they won’t even have the courtesy to tell me what the table wanted.”
“2. “Servers that refill iced tea without asking and/or refilling a glass at the table even if they do ask.”
AGREE- Always a fresh glass. And never refill at a table. Only water should be refilled table-side.new straw, new lemon (if needed), and let me add something: If it is fresh-brewed iced tea and is still warm, and extra glass of ice is usually appreciated, as well as an iced tea spoon. Also, the guest should never have to wait for sugar.
3. What is a 2-for-1? Two drinks for one price? If so, yes, why should you have to get them at the same time? I don’t drink fast; my second drink would be watered down. If it’s company policy, that’s stupid. If they’re really strict, though, and they make you get both at once, I suggest you ask for the ice on the side on the second drink, or no ice and ask for a fresh side of ice later.
4. “If the customer asks for a dessert, that’s a good time to ask about the check as well and if they do want the check, I feel the best servers are that they bring the check BEFORE the dessert ONLY if I wanted the check of course.”
I always carry a copy of my guests’ check with me after their food is served. I usually have three or four tables at once and I put all the bills in my server book, and carry one checkholder in my apron. This way, any time after their dinner is served, the guest can ask for the bill and I will have it on me. If the guest orders dessert, I have to wait until they get their dessert to give them their check (unless otherwise asked).”
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Springs1isaPSYCHOPATH Continued:
She came on my blog and wrote this:
http://howtobeagoodserver.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-be-good-server-in-restaurant.html?commentPage=4
Stef319
” MT
“Your system of never taking another tables drink order before turning in a ticket would back you up terribly, not to mention the humongous quantity of time you’d waste checking plates and menu prices. It would take you forever to get anything done.”
In my opinion, MT, once an order is taken, it should be put into the computer IMMEDIATELY. Once my guests place their order with me, the clock begins to tick. They should be getting their apps 5-10 minutes after they PLACE their order, and their entrees should take between 20-30 minutes (where I work). You really should not start off a new table with an appetizer or dinner order on hold.
The guests who just placed their order (who are hungry) are watching you approach another table. You then have to build your rapport, go over the specials, and possibly answer questions. This can potentially be very time consuming and your guests are not going to appreciate the delay in your service.
There are other times when it is acceptable to work all your tables together, but when you have a food order you shouldn’t be doing this.
The correct way to handle this is to approach the table (with the other tables’ menus in hand) and acknowledge their presence, and tell them YOU WILL BE RIGHT BACK. Then you ring in the order, go back to the table, and then you can do your greeting, go over specials, answer questions, etc. Now you can take your time with the new table cause you know that your other tables’ food is getting worked on by the kitchen.
I know that this can be time-consuming but it really is worth it. Waste no time getting food orders in.”
August 5, 2011 12:05 PM
See all the people that AGREE WITH ME ASSHOLES!! YOU ARE JUST MADDD THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT LAZY AND UNCARING LIKE YOU ALL ARE!!
Springs1isaPSYCHOPATH
BatBytch said: "And I agree with a lot of your points.”
BatBytch
"Servers are paid next to nothing."
So your money is only important here, but ours isn't?
“You don't want refills without being asked. And if you get them without being asked you refuse to say 'No thank you?' Okay... fair enough. ..."
Why would I thank someone that wasted my ********TIME********** that I am *****PAYING THEM NOT TO, HUH? Think about that they could have been at my table faster with what I DID want instead they wasted time bringing me something that I didn't want that they took ****TIME**** to fix for absolutely NOTHING. Think of that time you are fixing the glass with ice and drink that now you did for nothing that you could have been at our table instead. Also, why would I pay someone to ********** CONTROL********** my dining experience without my permission, huh? That makes no sense.
Why wouldn’t you say you were *SORRY* for ****************ASSUMING WRONG*********AND WASTING MY TIME, HUH? You got the order wrong, therefore, HOW could you think I should say “thank you” for getting my order wrong, huh? I order ONE COKE, NOT more than that. I don’t “HAVE” to have refills if I choose not to nor do I have to stick with the same drink. Who are you to tell me what I want for my tip money? Who are you to tell me what *I* want to drink, huh?
I refuse to thank someone to waste my time and try to control my dining experience. Why is it so horrible to want what *I* want for *MY TIP MONEY* I am paying, huh? Why are you refusing to *********APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING THE CUSTOMER’S ORDER WRONG BY ASSUMING, HUH? That’s manners to apologize. It’s mean to not apologize to the customer. You didn’t offer me another coke, you actually got me one, which is different. If you offered me a coke, then I would have said “Can I get a dr. pepper instead” for example, which then you will say “sure”, then I will say “thank you” ahead of time even and then again when you bring it to me.
So why is it all about *******YOU********** as if ******YOU WERE THE PERSON PAYING FOR THE SERVICE, HUH? You don't get an opinion about service if you aren't willing to pay US a tip, DUHH. That means we get to rule how we are. I would only thank someone that *OFFERED* me a refill and I didn’t want it that didn’t waste my time, understand? Not someone that wasted my time.
“I know you are the customer, and the customer is ALWAYS right.”
No I am not always right. I have been wrong before and apologized profusely when I have been. NO ONE in this WORLD is perfect.
“You are right to say how you want your service to be. But thats all your right about.”
Then WHY are you telling me what I should say and if I want a refill or not as if that’s your decision or the manager’s decision, huh?
“You really CANNOT understand what is to serve if you have never truly done it.”
Sorry, but I 100% DISAGREE completely. I have known the menu and how to do the job BETTER than the servers as well as the managers even. I have proven servers wrong time and time again about that I knew the menu BETTER than they did. At times, it was my VERY ****FIRST***** VISIT at the restaurant even. You obviously didn’t read the Mugshots, Andale and Copeland’s of New Orleans restaurant stories have you?
“I have tables everyday that love me to get them refills without interrupting conversation.”
That’s great, but not everyone wants that though. Why not just ask at the greeting “Some people like refills without being asked throughout their service, is this something you all would be interested in?” This way you please *******ALL****** your customers, not just SOME.
“And love when I write 'Thank you! Have a lovely day! :)' Hell, I have written 'Happy Birthday' and all sorts of things.”
Who says they love their time being wasted, huh? Especially if they are in a hurry like they are on their lunch break.
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BatBytch
“I had a customer one time when it was my first couple weeks... it was a 6 top. (Table of 6) and an older guy ordered a Chicken Pot Pie and a side salad. I was still learning menu items and what not. I explained I was still really new to the table. But if anything went wrong I would try my best to fix it. I charged the guy for the items and did not realize he could add a salad for just $1.99. When I brought the ticket out I said 'If anything doesn't look right, let me know and I will fix it.' Then it happened. This guy freaked out... called me out in front of my other tables and all. I tried explaining I simply didnt know the menu well yet and offered to go fix it. Which I did. He Wasn't going to tip me at all... His wife was with him though, and chewed his ass for how he treated me. We are SERVERS. Not slaves.. We want respect as well as you.”
If you didn’t know the menu why didn’t as you RUNG IT UP, ******COMPARED THE MENU TO THE COMPUTER SCREEN, HUH? I am assuming you didn’t ******TRY****** not to overcharge this guy, am I right that you didn’t compare the menu to the computer screen as you were ringing him up, huh? Also, you said you were in your first COUPLE of weeks. I have found menu issues with my check and the menu within my *****VERY FIRST VISIT***** at some restaurants before. If I could find it, you sure can. I am not saying that you can’t make a mistake. I am saying *******************DID YOU ACTUALLY ******TRY********* by ************COMPARING THE MENU TO WHAT YOU WERE RINGING UP TO TRY TO LEARN THE MENU************ ? I bet you didn’t, did you?
I feel if you didn’t do that, he had EVERY FUCKING ASS RIGHT to be pissed. Now, yelling, I agree that’s mean and just is wrong. But yeah, he had a right to be mad about it, because you didn’t put forth ****************ANY EFFORT****************into charging him correctly. Your job is to make sure ALL the prices on the check match the menu, NOT just that you rung the customer up right, but the prices need to match as well. That means if I order something of $7.99 as it comes, but on my check it’s got $8.99, you should have noticed this and gotten a manager to fix it. So your money only has to be right, but not the customer’s money? That’s how you seem, especially to say that servers are paid next to nothing. Read my other blog:
http://springs1.livejournal.com/392.html
Basically if you had time to write “thank you” BULLSHIT, you had A LOT OF TIME TO CHECK HIS CHECK for accuracy. Which one is more important? Obviously, making sure the customer is not overcharged or undercharged, NOT writing stupid shit that ***********YOU WANT***********. I would NEVER waste my customer’s time writing that crap. I have better things to do than that. Getting someone’s refill, getting their check faster to them, etc. I am there to “SERVE”, not to “doodle” wasting time for my customers. Even if there was only one table that was small and didn’t need anything, I could be cleaning something, which is doing something useful instead.
“But I can tell you, no server likes when someone is so picky.”
Of course not, they are LAZY AND UNCARING people if they don’t like it.
“But you honestly just need to cut people a break sometimes.”
When I see that they have *****TRIED THEIR BEST**** that’s when I cut them a break as well as if they are nice about the problem that they created at our table.
WHY should I cut someone a break that is LAZY AND UNCARING as well that isn’t nice, huh?
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BatBytch
“The man I talked about earlier put me in tears.”
If he yelled at you, I can understand and that isn’t right to be mean. The thing is, he a right to be pissed at you if you did **NOT TAKE THE *********EFFORT******** to have learned the menu better, not only comparing the menu to what you were ringing up, but you could have studied more at home as well which *IS* your fault. Today they have internet menus at a lot of restaurants and to-go menus at a lot of restaurants. WHY didn’t you know this? Once I went to a restaurant frequently and said a particular margarita name “El Guapo”, the waitress didn’t know it and I had to spell it. She said it was her 2nd or 3rd day, but the thing is, I NEVER worked there and knew this. The INTERNET had it. As a customer, ordered this drink NUMEROUS TIMES. There’s NO EXCUSE to make someone spell things for you. I don’t expect you to know everything, but the names of drinks you should know BEFORE you serve ONE bar drink. It’s ridiculous when you know more than the server that has worked longer than you there. That’s PATHETIC.
Was it REALLY a mistake that you did actually compare the menu descriptions, items, and prices to what you were ringing up? If you didn’t, then he had EVERY RIGHT to be pissed off that you showed you didn’t ***************CARE ABOUT THEIR MONEY************, JUST YOUR OWN AND YOU WERE LAZY ON THE JOB. If you did take the menu and compare it to the check, then it would have been just a real mistake, but I am willing to bet a zillion dollars if I had that much, that there’s NO WAY IN HELL that you actually COMPARED THE MENU WHEN YOU WERE RINGING THESE ITEMS UP TO THE COMPUTER SCREEN. Am I right?
“You simply cannot expect servers to follow your every need especially if they haven't served you before. Maybe after they get to know you better.”
Actually I could and have had servers do my every little want without having to tell them, because they had COMMON FUCKING SENSE. They didn’t order for me, they didn’t control any of my dining experience. They let *ME* make ALL THE DECISIONS AS IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SINCE IT’S OUR MONEY, NOT THEIRS PAYING FOR THE SERVICE. Some offered to bring the condiments ahead of time and did so.
“But at my job (I cannot speak for anyone else) we are required to refill drinks without interrupting the conversation/meal.”
You aren’t required that you can’t ask at the greeting if the customers want that type of service to BEGIN WITH and you know it.
http://www.stuckserving.com/waiter-story-here-is-a-nice-comment-form-the-squidoo-lens-about-the-waiter-tip-anybody-feel-the-same-way/comment-page-2#comments
JT that works or worked at a Chili’s said this: “Obviously if a customer says they don’t want one, I am not expected to bring one.”
So when I mentioned this: “The way you find out though is by *ASKING* WHEN GREETING THE CUSTOMERS!! This way you will know if they don’t want it or do want it. It’s not required if they tell you no, is it? So why not ASK this question at ALL your tables when GREETED? Your boss never told you it’s against the rules to ask this question, so why not do it? “
That’s when JT gave up and said: “I’m done, please never come into Chili’s if you’re from the New Orleans area. I’m absolutely not kidding.”
That ********PROVES*********** that you can still ask at the ******GREETING********* if the customer doesn’t want it. Also, if the customer voluntarily tells you that you don’t have to do this either. So NO, it’s NOT REQUIRED. NO manager is going to rule my tip money. If they want to rule it, tell them they should pay the tip for me then if they want control like that. While I am there, everything I want is paid by OUR MONEY, NOT THE MANAGER’S MONEY. That manager has NO LEGAL RIGHT to tell me how I want my service for MY MONEY and NEITHER DO YOU unless you want to pay me for you serving me a tip.
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BatBytch
“We are required to bring out certain things.”
It’s not required that you can’t ask first before you put it on our table such as free bread.
“If you wish to have good service, have good manners. (I.e. 'No thank you)”
It’s not good manners to say “no thank you” to wasting SOMEONE’S TIP MONEY(which is their time they are paying for).
Good manners would be to APOLOGIZE for getting THEIR ORDER WRONG OR REQUEST WRONG. THAT is what good manners are. You ASSUMED WRONG, THEREFORE YOU SHOULD APOLOGIZE. It’s just like when servers have given us the check and we weren’t ready for it, there should be an APOLOGY for ASSUMING WRONG, TRYING TO CONTROL OUR TIP MONEY(dining experience), and RUSHING US. You apologize when you assume wrong. THAT’S JUST COMMON COURTESY AND MANNERS.
I can’t believe you think I should say “thank you” for wasting my time. That’s hilarious and pathetic. If you waste my time, WHY THE FUCK WOULD I THANK YOU FOR THAT, HUH? That makes NO SENSE WHAT-SO –EVER. WHY would I be GLAD you CONTROLLED MY DINING EXPERIENCE OR HAVE TO FEEL OBLIGATED TO TAKE IT WHEN I DON’T WANT IT, HUH? I have kept some refills before at times because it made me feel obligated to take it. WHY make someone feel that way?
“A restaurant is supposed to work as a team.”
So you can honestly say you compare the written order or if you aren’t the server that took the order ticket or computer screen order(assuming the order was put in correctly of course) to the food for obvious errors whether you are the server or if you are a food runner/other server? A team means just that, not trusting the other person didn’t make a mistake, especially if it’s your table, that’s on *YOU* if you decide to leave one room and go into another for example with the wrong side dish or without the side of ranch.
Most people though don’t work as a team and you know it, including you that wants to blame the expo for what ***********YOU BRING OUT TO THE CUSTOMER*********. It’s not the expo’s fault EVER for a missing or wrong condiment.
“And we need to trust these people to do the jobs they are given.”
No, you don’t. You trust *******YOURSELF*********** FOR YOUR TIP BY EARING IT ***********YOURSELF**************. Trusting for things you can control yourself is lazy and EXTREMLEY UNCARING.
“If something goes amiss, it isn't always the servers fault.”
No, but MOST of the time it IS though. Most issues are OBVIOUS such as if my server brings me my food, my side of ranch isn’t on the plate, that’s ********ALWAYS********* my server’s fault even if my server doesn’t bring out my food, because they could have brought that ranch out AHEAD OF TIME TO AVOID such a thing. YOU EARN YOUR ********OWN TIP IN LIFE*********! NO ONE IS GOING TO IT FOR YOU!
“Sometimes expo doesnt send out ranch, but truly an easy fix.”
That fix should be caught ************BEFORE******************* the food is brought out. That should not get to the customer’s table without it. You could have brought that ranch out ahead of time. It doesn’t even take 5 minutes to get a side of ranch.
“I will never come back to this blog again.”
That’s because you know I will tell you the GOD’S TRUTH that you sound like you are an EXREMELY LAZY AND VERY UNCARING WORKER. I am not going to let you have the last word when you are being such a person that is being selfish. If you weren’t, you would have tried to notice that wrongly rung up check most likely and I bet because he bitched at you, you *LEARNED* from it, didn’t you? You LEARNED that you need to check the check for accuracy. That’s it’s not just food and drinks you serve that counts, it’s the check too that you serve. That counts just as much as the food and drinks.
“This article became a joke after a minute.”
Contradicting your own logic you said this “And I agree with a lot of your points.” Either you do or you don’t.
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BatBytch
“I just dont understand how you are so Arrogant about something you just dont have a clue about.”
When you have over and over the SAME ISSUES happen, you realize *****WHO CAUSED IT AND WHY IN MOST CASES*****, that’s what I have a clue about. YOU SURE DON’T.
I have never been a server, just counter help at a donut shop/diner back in 1998-2002 off and on a little over 2yrs worth. We served regular food items like burgers, sandwiches croissants, etc., not just donuts. I served people inside, to-go, and drive-thru as well. This was my first job which back then min. wage was $5.15/hr, within a month and a half got to $5.50. If I handed someone food that was missing something that wasn’t something covered up, that was my fault, not the kitchen people. I have common sense, you sure don’t.
You have no clue. If I am 36yrs old, going to be 37yrs old soon. If I were a server, I would be comparing the menu to what I was ringing up until I truly learned the menu as well as learned it at home. You don’t want to work hard or take ******ANY EFFORT*****, so why do you think that overcharge happened? I mean if you decided to not compare the menu to what you were ringing up, that’s WHY you didn’t get it right. You didn’t TRY. No one would have to train me on that and no one would have to train me to compare the menu prices to the check prices either. No one would have to train me that if I leave one room, go into another, if I took the order I should KNOW what the customer ordered for anything obvious that appears missing or wrong.
I will also repost my stories about mugshots, Andale, and Copelands. This will make you see WHY am I so Arrogant about it. Hopefully you will read and*SEE** that I know how to do the job MORE THAN YOU DO.
You wouldn’t believe some of the DUMB DINGY servers out there like not giving you appetizer plates BEFORE the appetizer arrives or at least with it, they wait until after like MORONS. Dingy servers that bring you out the completely wrong food when they didn’t take any *EFFORT* into getting it correctly to your table. Dingy servers that serve you food without utensils. Dingy servers that you have to show the menu to them what it has, etc.
“Serving is not as easy as it seems.”
That’s the one thing I will agree with you on, but that doesn’t mean you should be lazy and not**CARE** about what you are doing.
“try and be more understanding.”
I am understanding when I see the server ****************TRY********************* THEIR BEST*********, NOT when they are being lazy and uncaring. I will never be understanding of the servers that I have written about in my stories I will tell you the next posts.
As I said, I will repost my mugshots, etc. stories.
BatBytch Here's the stories:
The entire point of this story that happened to us was that our waitress didn't compare the *MENU* to *THE COMPUTER* to make sure she was ringing up the correct items:
My husband and I had gone to try a certain Mexican restaurant(Andale) for our first time and ONLY TIME. I ordered the nachos with shredded chicken for the appetizer nachos. Look at this on the menu:
“NACHOS DE LA CASA – Choice of ground beef
or shredded chicken, topped w/lettuce, pico de gallo,
sour cream, jalapenos and beans……………………………………………..7.25
w/Steak ……………………………………………………………………………………8.25
w/Shrimp ……………………………………………………………………………….9.25”
http://andalemargaritasgrill.com/menu.html
This is from the internet menu and it is just like this on the menu inside the restaurant. I didn’t specially order something not on the menu. We received grilled chicken from our waitress that you can *SEE* it wasn’t right, but I didn’t know since I don’t work there you know. Our waitress should KNOW what shredded chicken LOOKS like since SHE WORKS THERE, WE DON’T on the NACHOS she BROUGHT OUT!! It was our FIRST time there, so we didn’t know what it was supposed to look like(I should have though, but didn’t think about what shredded is supposed to look like, now I feel stupid about that I didn’t know just by looking at it the first second it hit the table) . Since nachos you can SEE the chicken, at least some pieces that aren’t covered up without TOUCHING anything, she should and could have caught her error for ringing it up wrong by her WRITTEN ORDER as well as the menu comparing that plate of food to the MENU noticing that there wasn’t an option nor did the customer say “GRILLED” anything. An option not on the menu even I DID NOT ORDER., HOW PATHETIC can you get, you don’t agree?
My chimchanga I specifically said shredded chicken. I didn’t think it looked right when I broke it open, but I didn’t know how they shred the chicken they served.
When we got our check, we were overcharged on TWO items. One was the nachos charging us $8.25(grilled chicken) when there isn’t even an *OPTION* on the menu(notice above from the internet menu) for that and I didn’t ask for something not on the menu. That was a dollar overcharge. Then, the grilled chicken is 50 cents more than what I ordered. $9.25 I was supposed to be charged, which I was charged $9.75.
I presented the problems to her nicely; she didn’t say she was SORRY even. I would have said I was SO SORRY and asked a manager if they can take off a least a soft drink for messing up if I were the server in that situation. It wasn’t just 2 overcharges, but she messed up 2 food orders as well by ringing them up wrong(at least the nachos for sure were rung up wrong) and SERVING the nachos wrong since it was obvious.
When I told her about there wasn’t even an option for the grilled chicken on the menu she said “It was an accident”, which I told her, which is SO TRUE, she didn’t even “TRY”. She didn’t: A. BRING out the nachos OBVIOUSLY correct by comparing the written order and menu to the food B. Compared what she was RINGING UP to the menu and the written order C. Compared the check to the menu prices to what we ordered BEFORE she handed us. How can TWO mistakes on a check be an “ACCIDENT” when you had times where you could have caught the mistakes since the restaurant was almost empty( like one other table of 2 or 3 people at it and 2 or 3 people at the bar? All that time we ate, she could have CAUGHT her mistake, for REAL. Our check times were 1:34p.m., then the credit card receipt was 2:14pm., so in all that time, since the place was almost empty, she couldn’t have caught those errors? GET REAL!! That was pure laziness and lack of EFFORT to TRY to get things right.
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BatBytch - Continued:
So try to tell me HOW can I not *KNOW* how to do the job when I see this kind of UNCARING SHIT from a server, huh? If anything, that has TAUGHT ME what grilled chicken looks like compared to shredded chicken, that I knew the MENU *BETTER* than SHE DID, that she put in the order wrong for the chimchanga I am assuming since we got overcharged on that as well, she put in the order wrong most likely for the nachos since we got overcharged on that item as well. I couldn’t FATHOM doing **ANY*** of these things she did that *SHE* ALONE CAUSED OUR PROBLEMS at our table. See how I would be a BETTER, NON-LAZY, and MORE CARING server than she was, huh?
A good, caring server would have:
1. Since she wrote down what I asked for “shredded chicken” if she didn’t know the menu, she should have compared the menu while ringing up the items so she would have known “DUH NO GRILLED CHICKEN OPTION ON THE MENU EVEN AND THE FACT THAT I DIDN’T SAY “GRILLED” so she should have compared the written order to the computer screen she was ringing up.)
2. Before she brought it out, let’s say she put the order in correctly. She should have known how they shredded their chicken since she worked there to decide not to bring it out since you could clearly see it wasn’t shredded chicken on top the nachos.
3. When she put the order in for the chimichanga, assuming she most likely didn’t put it in correctly that she overcharged me on that, so she could have compared the menu to that item she was ringing up.
4. When she got ready to bring the check, she should have compared the menu prices to the check as well as the written order and found the errors, got them fixed from the manager BEFORE giving us our check.
So that’s just one of MANY stories that’s proof. We stiffed her. she deserved it. She was VERY UNCARING and VERY, VERY, VERY LAZY. She could have caught everything except for the chicken inside my chimichanga since she would have had to cut that open. Everything else though was 100% HER FAULT. I really think though since my chimichanga was overcharged she rung it up wrong initially that she didn’t change it before she handed us the check.
ANOTHER STORY**************************
We went to this place called Mugshots:
http://www.mugshotsgrillandbar.com/
I ordered the Tucker's Pulled Pork Sandwich, which the menu inside actually had "Served with a heaping helping of Kayla's coleslaw."
Ok, being that I read the TO-GO MENU: http://www.mugshotsgrillandbar.com/T...xi-02-2010.pdf
It didn't state anything about the coleslaw. It does however on the non-to-go menu and the inside menu:
http://www.mugshotsgrillandbar.com/
Click on the tuckers pork sandwich, you will see where it has coleslaw. Well, anyway, when I got there, I was surprised the coleslaw came with the sandwich(was only going by the to-go menu when I had looked on line what I might want at this restaurant). I had told the waitress I didn't want the coleslaw that I didn't like coleslaw. I ordered my fries without seasoning or salt, not overdone. So I mentioned fries when I ordered.
When the bill came, it had "Substitute fries 50 cents." I questioned her, she was like "That sandwich only has one side." I was like "All of our gourmet sandwiches are served with brew city’s beer battered fries …" I cannot believe she *ARGUED* with ***EXACT WORDING ON THE MENU****. That's just unbelievable. There's no physical proof she's right, there is physical proof I was right though.
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I LITERALLY HAD TO READ THIS TO HER 2-3 TIMES for the STUPID ASS BITCH to get it through her thick skull that I was *PAYING* for the damn fries in the price of the item. "I even told her "ALL" like that even, REPEATING ********ALL GOURMET SANDWICHES ARE SERVED WITH FRIES, ALL GOURMET SANDWICHES ARE SERVED WITH FRIES.... I should have said "DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD *ALL* MEANS IN THE DICTIONARY, I MEAN SERIOUSLY?
Even the manager on duty was so stupid and I even proved him wrong even. He finally admitted I was right, because I was. At first, he said I was wrong, then I proved him wrong with the menu. How about that one for ya and I had *NEVER* gone there in my *LIFETIME* even. HOW ABOUT THAT ONE FOR YA, huh?
We stiffed her. She didn't ONCE say she was sorry when she was in the wrong. That was my first and ONLY time we have *EVER* gone there even. I shouldn't have had to explain exact WORDING to her like she couldn't *READ* or something. She was a DITSY STUPID ASS WAITRESS and the manager was even dumber not to know the menu *BETTER* than the servers even.
I had gone by the menu when ordering and the menu stated "ALL SANDWICHES ARE SERVED WITH FRIES." That means what it states.
I got fries without a problem, because I mentioned my certain modifications for my fries as to why I didn't know about it before bill time. See if I would have ordered it saying "No coleslaw" and not mentioned fries cooked and prepared a certain way I would have only received the sandwich. THERE I would have been some pissed. I *READ* the *MENU* and it stated I would get fries. Understand how you have to *KNOW* the menu to get things correct, huh?
My point is, I *READ* the **************WORDS ON THE MENU THAT I GOT *FRIES* for my money in the price of the item(any of those sandwiches).
It is strange, but this restaurant charges you for substituting side dishes unlike most restaurants.
I talked to managers since and they agreed with me, because you cannot disprove WRITTEN PROOF, you just can't.
That sandwich according to the menu(inside and the one that isn't the to-go menu on the website)includes two side dishes. That's what the menu has. She was telling me that this sandwich only had one, but that's *NOT* what the menu states. The menu states *ALL* sandwiches are served with fries and it's even under the same section even.
I KNEW MORE than the stupid staff members. YES I did.
We stiffed, because she was a bitch about it. You don't argue with a customer period even if they would maybe be wrong. Since I was right, I cannot understand for the life of me why she tried to argue with me about 50 cents. Costs her entire tip for 50 cents. If I would have been the server and the customer would have been wrong about something, I'd rather take 55 cents(tax I would include) and just forfeit 55 cents of MY OWN MONEY so I could get a nice tip instead. This was STUPID to ARGUE with me over 50 cents and she was 100% wrong. What an IDIOT!! She was VERY STUPID, SHE REALLY WAS. Can't argue with *WRITTEN PROOF* on a menu.
You don't see how I know the MENU AND HOW TO DO THE JOB BETTER THAN THE SERVERS SO THIS SHIT DOESN'T *********GET********** TO THE CUSTOMERS IDIOT? I am A VERY DETAILED ORIENTED PERSON AND YOU HAVE TO BE THAT TO BE A A SERVER!! Can you believe in BOTH situations that was our *FIRST* and ***********ONLY********** TIME ********EVER************** THERE but I KNEW *************MORE********** than the servers, huh? That's because I took*****EFFORT******* TO ****READ****** THE MENUS. I also know well DUH if it's not on the menu and the person ordered shredded how can it be grilled or that I could ring up something wrong or that you can see on top of nachos what GRILLED CHICKEN looks like.
These are just SOME of the stories. I can tell you more as well.
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Another story:
My husband and I went to a restaurant’s lounge area that we hadn’t been to since March(towards the end of the month back in 2009 I believe), this was July 4th. They had recently decreased their flavored martini prices. They had been having this plaque at the front of the lounge when you walk in that always had half-priced martinis. They also had a menu holder advertisement that had $5 martinis. Some of the martinis has lowered prices on the menu. So what happened, I showed the bartender. He didn’t realize this and even the FREAKIN MANAGER DIDN’T NOTICE. He was on the phone telling someone they need to remove the plaque.
Now don’t you think that’s a bit on the *RIDICULOUS* side that *I* KNEW MORE THAN THE WORKERS AND I HADN’T SET FOOT IN THE PLACE SINCE MARCH, HUH?
I KNOW HOW TO DO THE JOB BETTER THAN THESE IDIOTS, EVEN MANAGERS EVEN!
Another story:
I have experience as a customer that has had their orders wrong and many other things that have gone wrong throughout my dining experience.
For example, a waiter we had brought out another table’s food and our food, then put the tray on top the tray jack. He aimlessly handed out entrées, which he put in front of my husband fried shrimp w/fries when my husband ordered crawfish au gratin w/baked potato. We had seen him handing out these entrées and NOT *ONCE* had gone back to his *WRITTEN ORDER* to compare the plates of food to which table had which entrée. Turns out, he admitted he grabbed the wrong one from the kitchen. The thing is, he could have easily *CAUGHT* his mistake by doing a simply GLANCE at which table had which plate of food, it’s not time consuming to do that, it’s like 3-5 second glance at his paper is all it would have taken, but he was too lazy and uncaring to do that as well as I guess he did it too to act like this was fast food when it’s not that he didn’t have to rush like that.
I truly believe he most likely also didn’t compare his written orders to the plates of food in the kitchen as well. The main thing though is that he could have caught his mistake and didn’t *TRY HIS ****BEST***** to get it correct to our table. He looked like an IDIOT handing our table(ONLY ME AND MY HUSBAND) a completely wrong item.
Another restaurant experience at another restaurant also where I had ordered bbq chicken nachos as my meal. Our waiter brought out food out. He tried to hand us quesdillas. Turns out, he eventually(after I had to get up to ask where my food was), admitted he pressed the wrong button, but he was TOO STUPID, UNCARING, AND VERY LAZY to compare his written order to the food, then could have easily noticed his mistake so then he wouldn’t have wasted the time he took to bring that quesdillas to us or ask us about it even. He didn’t ask for a comp as I would have. He didn’t profusely apologize like say “SO” sorry as I would have, because I would have felt bad I ruin people’s outings.
Another experience at another restaurant, we had a waitress that brought my husband a cup of bisque when he ordered a bowl. You know what a bowl and a cup looks like with NOTHING in it.
That's just some more stories, I have more even to prove I know how to do the job better. A SERVER IS A MISTAKE PREVENTER FOR MOST ISSUES, because they can get *MOST* things corrected ****************BEFORE************** they bring them to you.
I have PLENTY of more stories. These are just a few. My point is, ***********I*********************** KNEW MORE THAN THE FUCKING SERVERS AND EVEN DUMB LAZY ASS MANAGERS EVEN ABOUT THE MENUS AND HOW TO DO THE JOB!
WHO WAS THE ****EXPERT**** IN THESE SITUATIONS? Wasn't it *********ME*************?
BatBytch
So what do you think now, huh CONTROL FREAK and NOT VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE about the job?
BatBytch
“you just dont have a clue about."
Now after reading, you don't see that *YOU* have NO CLUE that I know MORE THAN YOU DO and MORE than what you think I know?
BatBytch
"You really CANNOT understand what is to serve if you have never truly done it."
Now do you see that being a ******CUSTOMER WITH NUMEROUS PROBLEMS AND EXPERIENCES****** will make you ***LEARN**** more than the servers like you that apparently don't have ********ANY******** experience with these issues as a customer, huh?
I'd rather ANY DAY take someone that has my dining experience(every single weekend 2-3 times a weekend just about and some holidays since Nov. 2000) that only had a week experience vs. someone that had 2yrs experience as a server but didn't go out to eat much at all during their lifetime. WHY? Because you can relate to how it ******FEELS TO BE THAT CUSTOMER THAT HAS THEIR ORDER OBVIOUSLY WRONG, THEIR CHECK OVERCHARGED, ETC. You know how it would feel. I bet you don't know what it feels like, because if you did, you sure would be doing what I said and you know it. Maybe it happened, but not as often as we have. You wouldn't believe how many times we have had wrong prices in restaurants. This year, we had one only our 2nd visit(1st visit doesn't count since it was over 10yrs ago). Our check had the queso for $4.95, but was $3.95 on the menu. I saw that and the server didn't. When I presented it to the server, she REFUSED to fix it saying that the newer menus weren't out yet, I was like "So you aren't going to fix it?" So for her not accepting fault, she got stiffed. Not because she overcharged me, because she refused to fix it which is acting like her money is only important, not ours. Our money is *JUST AS IMPORTANT* as hers is. I am not supposed to have to find this. She admitted not comparing the menu prices to the check prices by saying it was that the newer menus weren't out yet, because if she would have she would have not blamed the menu or the computer. I told her that we don't order from the computer for that price to legally matter. Legally I consented to $3.95, NOT $4.95. She was a bitch. Anyone that cared would have tried to find this and gotten their manager to fix it WELL BEFORE check time since this was an appetizer.
If you haven't been though these things, you don't know how to serve. How can you relate to the customer if you haven't had it happen to yourself, huh?
Outside food, sorry, but YEAH, if you introduce it to the kitchen area(the microwave), you sure are getting ***GERMS*** into the microwave area, the handle of the microwave and when you close it. Yes you are sure introducing bacteria from someone else's home or wherever they just left from.
You are VERY WRONG on this.
"So you would deny food to a baby because you wouldn't get tipped for it?"
No, because that's not the server's job to serve food or drinks that aren't a part of the restaurant IDIOT. If it was milk the customer actually is ***PAYING****** for then YES I would do it, but NOT their own milk from home that the mother isn't purchasing anything for this baby, NO. If they are a PAYING customer I would do it. Understand?
"Sounds ***********UNCARING*********and*********LAZY********to me. "
No, it has to do with that if it's not a product of the restaurant then how is it the server's job to serve it, huh? Tell me that STUPID IDIOT, huh?
Springs, you're the IDIOT, cuz babies drink formula not milk.
And I never mentioned the microwave. There's more than one way to warm up a babies bottle. You're a heartless bitch is you refuse to warm a babies bottle. And it is Not a health department violation to warm a babies bottle. Do you think you're not bringing germs into the restaurant? Or do you know everything about that also??
Basically you're the type of customers that think they're always right. You can hold on to your beliefs on what you think is right. But let me just make another comment in addition to 800 more people that replied to your blog(and you apparently have so much time to reply to all of them). When you have 41 problems with countless times with each problem, assuming that's about 120 servers or more you have had problems with, the issue here is obviously not the server. It's you. What's right to you is not always right to others. You are not the only table in the server's section especially talking about the places you dine at. They offer casual service if you even understand different types of restaurant. You can't expect all "servers" to be the same that servers at casual restaurant will be offering same service as those in fine-dining. The world isn't about you, even if you think it is, no it's not. They have other guests that are worth their time more than you, and respect them more than you. If you think tips matter to servers that much, let me tell you they don't. They will not waste their time on your table to ask you if you want free bread when they have other tables to go to. They will not make other guests wait for them to check up to grab you your bill when you ask for. You're not worth the $2-$5 more bucks they will earn off your table. You're not demanding, just self-centered. If you want things your way and can't cook at home, go to Wendy's and build yourself an in home bar. Forget the 41 horrible service you've had. You obviously don't know what customer service is about since you always put yourself as a standard. You’re 36, and you’re 37. Your rules will just create traffic for all the servers in the world. You obviously understand nothing about management.
I am 26, I own 3 restaurants doing things the way I do. The only complaints I’ve had was when a customer cannot substitute tomato for shrimp at no charge, when they drank the soda and want to change it to green tea and we don’t let them, when we don’t allow them to use 3 months expired gift certificate, and when we ask customers to leave after camping out at the business and harassing my servers. And guess what I was doing in college? I served. Made myself enough money and built management skills to open up my own business and maintain $300k profit a year for 4 years. And Denny's, Chilli's, Applebee's make much more than I do.
FIY. servers in Applebee’s and Chili’s make at least $15/hour in worse case scenario, they drive home in their new mercedes or lexus with $100+ a night in short shifts. They can live without your business.
FIY. working in a donut shop, no wonder why you don’t understand anything and eating out at Applebee’s is probably the best you can afford.
And PS. I happen to see this
'"You say that we should not knock out all three tables if we get triple sat. Well why not?"
Because it's NOT FAIR. If the first party is FIRST, then they should be treated just like they were in a line.'
If you were the third in line, you would be telling a different story.
FromMe ToTheIdiots Continued:
The uncaring lazy servers would show their true color is my point. As I said before, I wasn’t asking him to shine my silverware or shoes. I was asking him to try to get my order right since it was a lot of things more than one average person would order in general, that’s all. Why be a jerk? I just couldn’t believe he complained. He was in the wrong. You don’t complain to your guest about doing work. If you want to complain, don’t do it where the customer hears it. That’s just bad for business even in front of the other customers that don’t want to hear such negativity. No one goes to a restaurant to hear a server complain about doing A LITTLE MORE WORK than they usually do and they SHOULD be doing anyways.
He was an asshole. For him doing that, I could have STIFFED his ass and I didn't. He shouldn't have said that to me. COMPLAINING TO MY FACE was wrong. I didn't complain to a manager, but I could have as well. He should have just said "SURE" and said that he would have had to get a pen and pad as other servers have done for us, even at this restaurant even. Basically my complaint was that he wasn't *********NICE*********** about it. He was complaining he had to do **********WORK***********, LIKE WTF ARE YOU A SERVER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO WORK? One other time I was at this restaurant which this restaurant is out of town, so it had been probably a couple of years since the person that didn't write our order down got 3 things wrong. I had complained to a manager over the phone back then and the lady manager said that she couldn't make them write down orders. The thing is, what kind of manager would be like that if the server PROVED that they *DID* need to write down the orders? I ordered a Mai Tai when I ordered my entrée, which she forgot to put in the order, she admitted it. WHY? She didn't write it down. I even asked her a second time when I was ordering "Are you sure you don't want to write my order down?" She said "I got it." She brought out our food, NOT someone else. She forgot my mustard, forgot to put the Mai Tai order into the computer, AND had pickles on the side of the plate that now I had pickle nasty ass juice( I HATE, DESPISE DILL PICKLES TO A LOATHE), which I ordered correctly said I only wanted "lettuce, cheddar cheese, and onions, and bacon extra crispy only, medium well" that it got on the bun and my fries the pickle juice. It's common sense if someone says that, that means not on the side if they don't want it, WHY the hell put it on the plate? Common sense. Especially something that gives off JUICES GALORE, common sense. If they wanted to guess it, they could have put it in a separate container if they wanted to, not put it by my burger or by the fries. So my point is, how is it ***ME****, if the servers are LAZY ASS AND UNCARING as well as ASSHOLES TO ME?
HOW is that SOOO HORRIBLE to expect someone to *****TRY THEIR BEST*****, HUH? No one in this world is perfect. I bet he couldn't truly tell me he NEVER ONCE forgot something or never once got something wrong he didn't write down and he knows it as well as you and EVERY OTHER SERVER IN THIS ENTIRE WORLD KNOWS IT, so don't lie to me.
“What’s right to you is not always right to others."
That's why I am all for NEVER ASSUMING ANYTHING, DUHHH! I have always preached that, ******ALWAYS ABOUT NEVER GIVING REFILLS WITHOUT ASKING, NEVER GETTING THE CHECK WITHOUT ASKING, NEVER GIVING WATER WITHOUT ASKING, ETC. Then why are you for this then? You are CONTRADICTING YOURSELF HERE by saying “They will not waste their time on your table to ask you if you want free bread”, huh? Then if you think what’s right for me is not always right to others, why not ask if someone wants bread? You can’t see my point? You can’t see you have CONTRADICTED YOUR OWN LOGIC HERE DUMB IDIOT?
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FromMe ToTheIdiots Continued:
"You are not the only table in the server's section especially talking about the places you dine at."
I know that, that's why if someone else's turn is first, I will wait my turn as I am **SUPPOSED TO.***
“You can't expect all "servers" to be the same that servers at casual restaurant will be offering same service as those in fine-dining. "
I don't, that's why I am glad not to get water without asking at chain restaurants like Applebee's, Chili's, Outback, Red Lobster, etc.
Fine dining we have had some bad service. I don't get why you think that fine dining is so great? It's at times worse than those chains I just mentioned.
"The world isn't about you, even if you think it is, no it's not. "
The world isn't about the server's tip. SO WHAT? I don't get why you think the server's money and time is *ANY* more important than ours? The world isn’t about the server PERIOD. You act like the server is GOD, ABOVE US CUSTOMERS when they aren’t any better than anyone else in this ENTIRE WORLD.
"They have other guests that are worth their time more than you,"
NO, NO ONE IN THIS UNIVERSE even *YOU* OR *ME* is ****ANY MORE OR LESS IMPORTANT**** IN THIS LIFE THAN ANYONE ELSE. WE ARE ****100% ALL ****EQUALLY JUST AS IMPORTANT**** SELFISH ASSHOLE! FUCK YOU if you think you are above me. FUCK YOU! I am at least admitting I am not above you or anyone else, WHY can't you do the same, huh? I am at least being honest, TRY IT SOMETIME!
"and respect them more than you."
That's because you want the tip and they pay you no matter what you do wrong, that's why.
"If you think tips matter to servers that much, let me tell you they don't."
Then WHY do I see BLOG AFTER BLOG saying "Tip at least 20%" ALL OVER THE FUCKING INTERNET, HUH? I see:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/31/applebees-waitress-fired-god-tip-receipt_n_2591794.html" and things like that from cheapskates? Why servers risk getting fired to post customer's stiffs and written notices on facebook if it didn't matter?
Obviously, it DOES REALLY, REALLY, REALLY MATTER?
Look at just SOME of the websites and see if you think I am wrong:
Google the following I have in quotes just exactly like this and look through *****ALL OF THE SERVERS COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS and tell me that you think tips don’t matter: “tip at least 20%"
Why do I see all the time servers talking about for example “I have a sick child” or “We need rent money”, etc., etc. as if they are SOOO POOR?
Heck, my previous poster Bat Bytch YESTERDAY said I QUOTE: “Servers are paid next to nothing. And we count on tips to make ends meat.”
She said this, NOT me. This tells you that you are 100 BILLION, TRILLION PERCENT WRONG and you know it. Where’s your proof huh STUPID IDIOT?
If tips didn’t matter then why are they BITCHING SO MUCH about them, huh? PAGES and PAGES and PAGES, YOUTUBE VIDEOS GALORE, http://ifyoucantaffordtotip.com/, etc.
Google this: If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out and eat.
All of this proof PROVES YOU WRONG. Go ahead try to disprove me, but I have more proof you are wrong than you have proof that I would *EVER* be wrong.
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FromMe ToTheIdiots Continued:
"They will not make other guests wait for them to check up to grab you your bill when you ask for."
If it's not my turn then I agree, but if it is and they aren't called over, they are CUTTING and should. Understand the difference. For example, let's say I ask for our check, the table next to me calls my server over, of course they can't ignore them so they will go to their table, but if they ask for 3 refills, I would think they'd get our check first, because first off, IT’S OUR TURN SINCE WE ASKED FIRST and secondly, it's in their ADVANTAGE to get us out of there faster so they can get another table and secondly, if we wait longer, they won't get as much money. We asked first out of the 2 tables, therefore, it's only fair ours is first. Even if it was the opposite, table in front of us asked for their check, we called our server over asking for the check, I sure the HELL WOULD *******NEVER****** expect my server to get our check before the 3 refills, NO WAY would that be fair or morally right. I would expect my server to get the 3 refills or delivering any food or bar drink or any request that came BEFORE ours BEFORE our check. What I wouldn't expect is if I asked for our check first, but the next table behind us AFTER WE JUST ASKED FOR OUR CHECK asked for 3 refills that our server would get 3 refills first and then our check, because that's letting 3 people CUT in front of our turn and it's also HURTING the server more. Doing it the way it SHOULD be done, we have more time to read our check which is more efficient that after the 3 refills are being gotten and delivered, that after they leave our table if no other people are calling our server over or no other previously ordered items are ready, could have rung up the check now rathering than doing it your way that we are just getting our check basically by the time you get 3 refills, especially if you have to change syrups. It's hurting the server's income doing it your way in 2 ways by delaying their time and delaying them from leaving the table that could be occupied by another TIPPING PARTY. You all don't like camping, well you are not preventing it by not going to put the orders into the computer when you are triple sat which IS making the customer get their orders faster whether it's from the bar or from the kitchen doing it the way I and Stef319 says. It would be like if you were the 1st table, but 4 other tables asked for items I could get like refills, boxes, checks, etc., that by the time I got your check, it would be literally 8-10 minutes later, because I would have put you last when you were first. WHY do that to your income, huh? You are hurting yourself? You don't realize that MORON? Servers hate campers but aren't trying to get you out as fast as they can. Think about it.... You wait 5 minutes to put in my order because you are triple sat, you are going to wait A LOT LONGER than 5 minutes now that other servers and the bartender put food orders and bar orders ahead of that table's orders. Now that table's order gets to the back of the list. Even if let’s say it’s 11a.m. when they first open the restaurant, if we order our food, if you go to clean up for 2 minutes, that’s still 2 minutes longer we wait for our food even if no other customers you are serving, because waiting to put in our order means we are waiting longer for our food, PERIOD. That’s common sense.
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FromMe ToTheIdiots Continued:
"Your rules will just create traffic for all the servers in the world."
Because of CONTROLLING people like yourself that think you servers should rule our tip money. If managers want things their way, they should not have tipping period and pay their servers a wage so it would be like McDonald's. This way, if the manager wanted their servers to serve bread or serve refills without asking, I couldn't have a say since I wouldn't be paying for my time there, the manager would, understand? Until that happens, *********************OUR TIP MONEY RULES OUR TIME THERE CALLED THE TIP**********, UNDERSTAND? Especially when automatic gratuity is FORCED on the customer when in a large party. Making us pay a tip is not right. If you want things your way, then don't make us pay a tip then, ********YOU PAY OUR TIP THEN*********if you want that control. I would gladly take the unwanted bread and refills, unrequested check etc. if I wasn't using *************MY HARD EARNED MONEY TO PAY FOR MY TIME THERE CALLED SERVICE*********. I sure wouldn’t dare dine at your restaurant though, because I am not into control. I’d rather pay for my service and get what I want for my time. Even if I didn’t have to pay a tip, I’d gladly pay 30%-50% tip just so I can get things how *******I********* want them. Most people would. That’s why they probably will never abolish tipping. It’s a way to get the service you want for your money without having to take things like you do at McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Burger King, etc.
"You obviously understand nothing about management."
You don't understand that the managers aren't ******PAYING FOR MY SERVICE******** therefore they can't tell me I want bread, I want refills without asking, I want water, I want my check without asking, I want ketchup, etc. HOW THE HELL CAN YOU CONTROL MY TIP MONEY ************I************************** AM PAYING, HUH? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT **I*** WANT FOR ****************MY TIP MONEY*********, HUH?
Managers don't count for shit when it comes to service. OUR TIP MONEY RULES OUR SERVICE. If you want things your way as a manager ************YOU**************** make a rule in your restaurant "NO TIPS ALLOWED", this way you can control WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT since you are paying your servers a normal decent livable wage. I wouldn't DARE dine in your restaurant though as I said, because I want what *******I******** want for my money and would rather *******************ANY DAY**************** get the control than ************THE MANAGER*********** to control my experience. We have no choice if we dine at McDonald's, but we do have a choice of how we want our service if we dine at an Applebee's or Red Lobster or Chili's as long as automatic gratuity is not added if we are in a large party.
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FromMe ToTheIdiots Continued:
"I am 26, I own 3 restaurants doing things the way I do."
Goodie for you, so what? I don't care. That's not the way everyone wants it. Why not satisfy *ALL* by just ***********ASKING QUESTIONS********** since it's not **********YOUR TIP MONEY PAYING FOR THEIR TIME********, HUH CONTROL FREAK? Why be so CONTROLLING? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO CONTROL ********MY HARD EARNED MONEY********? You aren’t the government. WHY DO YOU NEED THAT CONTROL? I SURE DON'T GET THAT YOU ACT LIKE YOU CAN CONTROL OUR TIME THERE WHEN YOU SURE THE HELL CAN'T? You can refuse to serve me and you can throw me out, but you can't tell me how I want my service. That's **********MY TIP MONEY***********PAYING*********, NOT YOURS! YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR TRAP AND LET THE PEOPLE THAT **********ARE PAYING FOR THE SERVICE AND ESPECIALLY when you are FORCED to tip with automatic gratuity********** tell you how they want things. If you want things your way, as I suggested, *******************************PAY YOUR SERVERS $9-$10/hr and NO TIPS CAN BE ACCEPTED OR ELSE THEY WILL BE FIRED. You can prevent this with hiring a surveillance crew just like the have at Casinos that are watching like a HAWK what things are going on. Now you can't prevent someone from giving something in the bathroom of course, but I bet a camera that is not in the stall area is probably still legal as long as it's not in the stalls area of the ladies room or in the men's room where there are not urinals or stalls.
"The only complaints I’ve had was when a customer cannot substitute tomato for shrimp at no charge,"
That's CRAZY a complaint like that. One is a VERY EXPENSIVE item shrimp and the other is a CHEAP ASS TOMATO. It's not the same. It's not like a fruit or vegetable substitution even. That's seafood vs. a fruit. Makes no sense. Not the same price range. WHY THE FUCK COULD they POSSIBLY ask such a RETARDED THING, HUH? I even have more common sense than that. Anyone that has ********COMMON SENSE******** wouldn’t ask such a thing. Anyone that has ever bought shrimp and tomatoes at a store knows the price differences a HUGELY DIFFERENT and it’s just common sense. WHY would anyone complain about something so obvious and stupid?
"when they drank the soda and want to change it to green tea and we don’t let them"
If green tea doesn't have free refills or is more expensive, I can understand or if they don't want to pay the green tea price if it does have free refills instead of the soda price. Again, COMMON FUCKING ASS SENSE.
"when we don’t allow them to use 3 months expired gift certificate,"
COMMON SENSE. Why would you allow ONE DAY even expired? Expired means *EXACTLY THAT*, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS THAN THAT. I NEVER have tried that with any coupons or gift certificates anywhere, because I actually *READ* what I am paying for.
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"when we ask customers to leave after camping out at the business"
I don't think it's right to ask them to leave if they camp out in all cases, because they bought something to a degree. If they are there 2-3 hours I disagree, but if they are like 4-5 hours, then I will say I agree with you on that one, ONLY though if the place is closing or preventing other customers from getting seated, but only after 3hrs. If there aren’t any customers needing seats and it’s not closing time, WTH does it matter if you have other servers that can seat people? I have had 5 BIG bar drinks like huge margaritas as small as I am not even 100lbs, so if you expect me to drink 5 drinks in 2 hours or less, expect me to get sick or not be able to leave the restaurant? I should be able to sit where I want to since I am *PAYING* for the service, being if you move me to the bar, I will not be back. 99.99999% of other restaurants do NOT mind one bit I am there at times 3hrs, because I am buying so much items. I am not just camping. In between drinking, we are ordering food so I don't get sick drinking that much alcohol. If anything, it's not any different than the ones that stay watching an over 3hr football game. I mean when I watch our states football game, the game is like a little over 3hrs and sometimes a lot more if they go into overtime when people sometimes stay the entire time, even during halftime even, which we only once watched a the 1st half of a game and left at half-time at the longest when we have watched a game and only once we did so, which we did order things during that time, not just watched the tv. So you can’t come down on me for others doing the same and some of those people are doing the same as me, ordering lots of drinks and food spacing it out over that much time. I am not sitting there and not ordering. That’s not what we do. Some people do that sort of thing. We don’t.
"and harassing my servers."
Harassing, yes, they should have them kicked out if they did that, that's wrong. They also could be arrested for doing that. I will agree with you on that one. No one should have to take that.
"And guess what I was doing in college? I served. Made myself enough money and built management skills to open up my own business and maintain $300k profit a year for 4 years."
SO WHAT? Want a medal? Lots of servers become nurses and doctors, big deal. We knew a waitress we liked a lot at Outback that was going to nursing school became a nurse, so what? She didn’t make as much maybe as you have made by a long shot, but nurses sure make a lot more than an Outback server does with their tips and managers usually have to put in a lot of hours to make a good bit of money, therefore if you actually break it down per hour the managers aren’t always making so much a year if it was based on a 40hr average work week if they put in 70-80hrs or more in.
That doesn’t mean that’s how managers should be control freaks because you make a lot of money. Most people have MORALS and that is much more important than money will ever be to good, DECENT people in the world unlike you.
"And Denny's, Chilli's, Applebee's make much more than I do."
Then that just means you aren't as smart as they are then. Why tell me something negative then, huh? That just shows how stupid you are MORON!
"FIY. servers in Applebee’s and Chili’s make at least $15/hour in worse case scenario, they drive home in their new mercedes or lexus with $100+ a night in short shifts. They can live without your business."
Then WHY again am I seeing BLOG AFTER BLOG COMPLAINTS, huh?
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"FIY. working in a donut shop, no wonder why you don’t understand anything and eating out at Applebee’s is probably the best you can afford."
NO, because we have had some of the ******WORST SERVICE AND TASTE OF FOOD AT FINE DINING******. I'd rather ****ANY DAY****** have a big mac or Wendy's burger OR mozzarella sticks or chili cheese fries or southwestern eggrolls, etc. than a Ribeye or Filet Mignon. It just taste better. Working at a donut shop/diner I made an extra $100 in tips plus min. wage a week at times back then in 1998-2002 a week at times. It made more than working at a McDonald’s. I had guaranteed pay if I didn’t have someone that tipped me. That’s the difference there. I also had a chance to get 50-65-70 hrs at times, no overtime pay but to not have to get a second job and still make a good bit of money. A lot of places with the co-workers I have worked with had places that didn’t want to give them 40hrs since those were bigger companies that didn’t want to have to pay their workers any benefits like a grocery store or McDonald’s, etc. So I worked for example, with a young lady that worked 10hrs at a grocery store and some time at this place as well. That was what she wanted to do. I chose to work just there. I at times worked double even more than that even. Once I worked a little over 19hrs in a row.
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"If you were the third in line, you would be telling a different story."
No, I know we'd be 3rd. That's SOOO NOT TRUE and you know it. You just don't get that the LONGER you take to put in our order the LONGER WE ARE THERE ***********WAITING***************, therefore, we are *********CAMPING********* because of **************************************YOU*********************** MORON!
If you wait 4 minutes to put in our order, in a very busy restaurant, you have made us wait 10-15 minutes more, because other servers and the bartenders at other computers have put in OTHER TABLE'S ORDERS ********************AHEAD OF OURS************ YOU STUPID IGNORANT MORON***********!
You are HURTING YOURSELF BY WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Let's say table 1, table 2, and table 3 you got triple sat. Let's say you are at the stage of the entrée orders, you get the 1st table, 2nd table has as what was what really happened to us 4 or 5 people asking question after question and ordering modified as all fuck orders, and then the 3rd table. Those 2 tables altogether took literally 7 minutes from the time you left the 1st table. In that 7 minutes at 7p.m or 8p.m. on a Saturday night with a 40 minute to an hour wait for at table, you don't think that some other servers or even the bartender put other tables during that time into the computer? You know they most likely did, meaning their orders have beat the orders you could have put in 7 minutes ago. YOU have just created a 15-20 minute MORE WAIT for the customer's food for that 1st table a 5-10 minute wait longer for the 2nd table because you were too lazy to go to the computer after each table. You are a MORON.
Stef319 is right. The CLOCK STARTS when they order.
Stef319 said: "the clock begins to tick. They should be getting their apps 5-10 minutes after they PLACE their order, and their entrees should take between 20-30 minutes (where I work). You really should not start off a new table with an appetizer or dinner order on hold."
She works or at the time I talked to her worked at a Red Lobster. Why does *SHE* agree with me and SHE has been in the restaurant industry for A LOT more years than you have been on this EARTH and so have I been on this EARTH LONGER than you have, huh? If you started at 15yrs old or 16yrs, she has been a lot longer than you have at only 26yrs old. It’s the truth though. The moment you take my order, that’s the time I am waiting and if you wait to put in my order for any reason that isn’t reasonable like bussing a table or going voluntarily to a table that didn’t call you over, then you, then you know you are cutting. You have known since a child cutting has always been wrong. Nobody can go into a store and get in front of the line, that’s just not how it happens. Once, I was a CVS, didn’t realize that they were forming a ONE line even though they had a bunch of cashiers open and was told that I had to get in the back of the line from the *CASHIER*. That’s just how the *****REAL WORLD WORKS****** that you wait your turn. That’s why when you are triple sat, that means that the 1st party has waited LONGER for a table or booth than the 2nd and 3rd parties have in the waiting area. Therefore, it’s only fair to treat them as they are people in line that have turns. You even said it yourself “You are not the only table in the server's section”, so WHY do you act like that the 1st people turns should get PUNISHED(WAITING LONGER) for the other tables that didn’t wait as long for a table or booth, huh? It’s UNFAIR to cut and you know it. If you want people to be fair to you when they tip you if you were a server and talk to you if you were a server, you have to be fair to them. EQUAL/EQUAL relationship.
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http://stef319.hubpages.com/hub/Confessions-of-A-Food-Server
Stef319 said: "I have been working in the hospitality industry for 17 years."
Sounds like she has had more experience than you have MORON.
It's common sense, the longer you take to put my order in, now more orders are put ahead of the orders from OTHER SERVERS IN THE RESTAURANT(at Chili’s for example they have 4 computers I have seen) you could have put into the computer, that's common sense.
As she said, "You then have to build your rapport, go over the specials, and possibly answer questions. This can potentially be very time consuming and your guests are not going to appreciate the delay in your service."
It takes A LOT OF TIME(as she said in her words "VERY TIME CONSUMING" to go over specials and questions as well as with my orders, MODIFICATIONS GALORE, that the 1st table will not be so happy seeing their food or bar drinks or anything get delayed that they have asked for. It's one thing if they call you over, it's quite another for you to decide all on your own to cut. CUTTING IS WRONG. I don't see people on black friday letting people cut. They are getting into fights on youtube for cutting. Cutting is soooo not right. It never has been and never will be ok.
If I knew I was the 3rd party, I shouldn't have been seated honestly. They weren't ready for me. No server should be triple sat. As I have said before in the past to someone probably on this blog or somewhere, when we went to Hard Rock Cafe, the waiter we requested came up to the hostess while we were waiting for this waiter to get seated we liked said to the hostess "I’m in the weeds, don't seat me with anyone right now." He TOLD the hostess that IN FRONT OF US. He didn't get fired for it. No hostess or host should seat 3 tables at one right after the other no matter if it's only 1 person to each party. It just doesn't work out to well. We have ordered when greeted before for example waiting 40 minutes for a table at Macaroni Grill, which we weren’t triple sat and I don’t remember being double sat either. We ordered bar drinks both of us, side salads, appetizer, and entrées, which I had some modifications with mostly my side salad like I didn't want the olives they put in it when I asked her what they put in it, because it's not on the menu, which most places don't have side salad ingredients listed for some WEIRD REASON when it's not universal to have the same stuff such as Macaroni Grill they put OLIVES in their garden salad, which to me is ODD. I also asked for 4 sides of ranch, another side of ranch as well as extra bbq sauce for the bbq chicken pizza I ordered. She didn't write anything down and forgot to put our appetizer order into the computer she admitted so after we got our entrées from another server, we mentioned to the waiter about that we had ordered whatever appetizer we had ordered, so our server comes back with her covering her mouth(basically like OOPS I FORGOT) look. What a shock for not writing things down, NOTTTTTTT! My point is, do you realize how LONG we took when we got greeted to order ALL of that? Probably 3-4 MINUTES I am pretty sure, because they also write their name on the table cloth there with a crayon at Macaroni Grill, which that takes time too.
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My point is, no restaurant hostess or host should be double or triple seating. Take one table, greet them, then after the initial greet, then seat the next. A minute or two more in the waiting area unless they have been waiting for an hour or so isn't going to make a break a difference. If they aren't ready for us, WTF seat us? The 3rd table at Outback that I talked about before in my “Serve me Please” blog we waited 3 minutes to get greeted which we were the 1st table out of the 3(2nd table had 4 or 5 people and the 3rd had 2 just like us). The 3rd table probably didn't get greeted until 5-6 minutes from getting seated doing it your way. Why not just let them wait in the waiting area? You may say because they may leave, but if they wait too long when they get greeted, they won't want to come back anyways and you may end up having to comp something or get a corporate complaint that has something comped for the next visit. WHY do that? Why triple or double seat? Why not if one server is sat already, you don't just make them wait a few minutes more in the WAITING AREA? When I am seated, I expect to get served as if they are *READY FOR ME* NOT even to wait 3 minutes to get greeted even as the 1st table we were, so does EVERYONE ELSE and you know it. A minute to a minute and a half to 2 minutes at the VERY MOST I should be waiting once they have seated me that means they are ready for me.
"Forget the 41 horrible service you've had."
That will NEVER happen. Anything that hurts my feelings is with me FOREVER and EVER!
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I believe I forgot to post where Stef319 agreed with me at on my blog, so here it is:
http://howtobeagoodserver.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-be-good-server-in-restaurant.html?commentPage=4
Stef319
”MT
“Your system of never taking another tables drink order before turning in a ticket would back you up terribly, not to mention the humongous quantity of time you’d waste checking plates and menu prices. It would take you forever to get anything done.”
In my opinion, MT, once an order is taken, it should be put into the computer IMMEDIATELY. Once my guests place their order with me, the clock begins to tick. They should be getting their apps 5-10 minutes after they PLACE their order, and their entrees should take between 20-30 minutes (where I work). You really should not start off a new table with an appetizer or dinner order on hold. The guests who just placed their order (who are hungry) are watching you approach another table. You then have to build your rapport, go over the specials, and possibly answer questions. This can potentially be very time consuming and your guests are not going to appreciate the delay in your service. There are other times when it is acceptable to work all your tables together, but when you have a food order you shouldn’t be doing this. The correct way to handle this is to approach the table (with the other tables’ menus in hand) and acknowledge their presence, and tell them YOU WILL BE RIGHT BACK. Then you ring in the order, go back to the table, and then you can do your greeting, go over specials, answer questions, etc. Now you can take your time with the new table cause you know that your other tables’ food is getting worked on by the kitchen. I know that this can be time-consuming but it really is worth it. Waste no time getting food orders in.”
August 5, 2011 12:05 PM
From a hostess' POV on the reference to double/triple seating. Believe it or not, we are told to do so if we are busy. Managers tell us that our job is to make sure every table is sat on a busy night.
So...maybe you should try working in a restaurant?
Not everything is under our control. We work under management.
You sound like an absolute nightmare of a table. I couldn't even finish your list.
So, by trying to help people with being a good server, you're really just bitching about every simple little mistake that's ever happened? People make mistakes. No need to basically bash their faces in because your fat ass didn't get enough dip.
Jamie Johnson
"So, by trying to help people with being a good server, you're really just bitching about every simple little mistake that's ever happened? People make mistakes."
I am not talking about mistakes and you know it. I am talking about when problems happen due to *LAZINESS AND BEING UNCARING* on the job. It's on purpose if you don't *TRY* your best. For example, a waitress said to me "I don't add it up" when me and my husband had a wrong price(It was 2 prices into one($21.99 plus 4.99 to add crawfish to it, which we were charged $28.48, but was supposed to be $26.98, a $1.50 overcharge). We caught it simply by comparing the menu price to the check price for that item. You don't even need a calculator if you round to the nearest dollar in your head $22 + $5 = $27, which $28 couldn't possibly be correct if you did that in your head. My point is, she admitted what I thought to be correct that she didn't *****TRY HER BEST****, so that wasn't a mistake, that was HER LAZINESS AND BEING UNCARING ON THE JOB. She *****ADMITTED****** she didn't "add it up" therefore, that *PROVES* she didn't make a mistake. A mistake is UNINTENTIONAL. That's *INTENTIONAL* to not try your best. Just like it's intentional if you choose to not study for a test, same thing.
So don't say "People make mistakes", when the VAST MAJORITY of servers are VERY LAZY AND UNCARING HUMAN BEINGS that ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR SELFISH SELVES. Most aren't working hard. Most aren't trying their best. Why at times I have had SEVERAL DUH mistakes on a plate? Because the person bringing it out didn't VERIFY SHIT! I mean even if it's another server that brought out the food, if the server put in the order correctly, there's not going to be 3 DUH mistakes on the plate. I mean if I can see the problem without touching my food so can the server. If it's my own server there's no reason to have 3 DUH OBVIOUS mistakes on one plate of food. Think about it. If you actually VERIFIED the food with your written order, HOW can you miss 3 things on ONE PLATE if you TRULY, HONESTLY TOOK THE EFFORT TO FIND THE ERRORS, HUH? One thing, sure that MAY be a mistake, but THREE OR MORE, NO FUCKING ASS WAY did the person verify SHIT!
"No need to basically bash their faces in because your fat ass didn't get enough dip."
I am not even 100lbs at 5 feet 0 inches even. YOU must be fat and are just JEALOUS, AREN'T YOU?
There is a need to be PISSED if they didn't *TRY* their best and if they showed they didn't ******CARE******** about you.
If you feel that you can't remember my "dip", then you may want to do what some servers have done for me, ********BRING IT OUT AHEAD OF TIME******, DUHHH! This way, nobody forgets condiments.
Also if you are bringing me ONE appetizer, 99.9999% of the time, if you miss only ONE side of ranch I added to it, in my opinion, you didn't compare my written order to the food considering it's ONE plate of food with ONE side of ranch added to it. To me, if you really cared, you'd bring that out before my food rather than risking forgetting it. ONE plate of food, chances are, you won't truly just miss something. I understand our minds are on many other things, but you can still bring condiments out ahead of time and you should be comparing the written order to the food, not just winging it.
In general, in most cases, condiments are 100% preventable because you can bring them out ahead of time. Why should you wait for another server who ISN'T seeing ANY MONEY to GIVE A CARE about if *I* am happy? Why should you wait when you may forget? Why not just bring that stuff out ahead of time to avoid forgetting?
As I said before, you must be the one that is fat to talk about something that has NOTHING to do with this blog. Honestly, what someone looks like is being very shallow here. This isn't grade school. Act your age assuming you are an ADULT, ACT LIKE ONE!
i predict you will either die of a. getting killed by one of the poor servers that had the unfortunate task of serving you, or b. die of heart attack. i can feel your disgusting energy. as a server, i am more understandable when a server makes a mistake when i am the diner, and I believe if you lived a day in my shoes ( i don't know if you have ididnt read all the comments) , you'd probably kill yourself if you listened to all the things you recommend and have an opinion on.
thisguyisanidiot
"you're insane lady."
HOW when you can't even have the energy to CAPITALIZE starting letters to sentences even? What a hypocrite.
I am not insane and you know it.
" i would try to make your stay as uncomfortable as possible if you came to where i work, knowing you left a shit tip for a mistake an inexperienced server made ."
Why, I have no experience as a waitress, just counter help in a donut shop/diner for a little over 2yrs back between 1998-2002 off and on a little over 2yrs worth, when I learned more as being a frequent customer with problems than serving customers? I don't understand? I made a lady keep a cold croissant the first 6 months of my job because I had extremely VERY LITTLE experience as a customer(my mom cooked most of my life and even when I did it was usually fast food or the times I did go out to eat, was when they had no customers like 6a.m. at a Denny's or something, which was pretty rare throughout my entire lifetime.)
I am inexperience, SO WHAT? Does that mean I wouldn't be a good server? Of course not, I have much more knowledge than the average server that has even a year experience, because those people probably never had things that we have had happen to us and you know it. They can't understand just like *I* didn't when I made a man keep a raw donut, like YEAH, I made him pay for it. I made someone that dropped their twist pay for their food. They did. I didn't, couldn't grasp what it felt like to be that customer since I wasn't ever on the OTHER SIDE. Now I have been on BOTH SIDES of the situation. If I was on the customer's side, I would have understood how it felt to be that customer with the cold croissant, the raw donut, the dropped food, but I NEVER experienced that to understand.
So STOP saying "inexperienced server" to me, because that MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I didn't know a thing about customer service since I wasn't A CUSTOMER since I hardly EVER went out to eat with my family or even when I had a boyfriend in high school, we went to more romantic things like a movie and dances, so we NEVER had EVER actually ate out before. The only thing in high school we did was his PARENTS ordered a pizza or I went to birthday parties, that was it. In college, the boyfriend I had didn't have money nor did I since I didn't start working until I was 20yrs old since my parents wanted me to concentrate on college. So PLEASE for the LOVE OF GOD, STOP ACTING LIKE you know how it feels to be that customer to know how to serve. I didn't when I serve my customers. I eventually learned more after a year or so, but even then, still truly never truly understood since none of these things happened to me like overcharge on my check or completely wrong food, wrongly rung up credit card since I never paid with a credit card before I met my husband in late 2000, even when I paid with cash I didn't eat out much to have issues like what I have dealt with.
You just don't get that you don't know what it's like to be that customer in that situation to serve in a caring manner. I didn't understand that. Today, there's NO FUCKING ASS WAY I would make someone keep a raw donut. That's just awful. I did it because I thought you ordered it, you pay for it. That's just how I felt, period. I would NEVER make someone keep cold food. Back then I had no idea what it was like to have that since I NEVER even experienced that at a fast food place even. Now I have had wrong food OF COURSE at a fast food place, but fast food since you don't tip, it didn't register with me any of that, especially since it was my parents money since I was living at home even when I started working at the donut shop/diner even.
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If my parents would have eaten out a lot, then I would have understood much more since even it wouldn't have been my money, I would have had the deal with waiting to get things fixed. I never had such issues since we RARELY EVER ate out if it wasn't fast food or pizza, which to me pizza is fast food in my opinion.
" i bet you don't take care of yourself ,"
I bet you don't. Of course I care about myself. Why wouldn't I?
"think that keeping under 100 lbs does anyone any good,"
It makes me not be called fat and makes me not get people that when I go to my high school reunion if they have one in 2015, they can't say that "Springs1 got fat", so for me that's wonderful not be made fun of. I am sick of the assholes that made fun of me in junior high and don't want that again. I never got fat and got made fun of because I was quite, shy, made good grades, etc. I would rather stave than EVER have someone call me fat. NOTHING is worth that. The only thing that is if I had to throw up. I wouldn't EVER throw up not to be fat, because that is like not living and it ruins your teeth as well as that's just gross, disgusting. I'd rather not eat. No one is going to call me fat. I weighed around 92lbs in high school, this morning 96 and 1/4lbs, which is not even 96 1/2lbs even. Nothing is worth being called fat, NOTHING in this WORLD IS! You just don't understand at times weekly at least I would be made fun of from 7th -9th grade kids would pick on me. I was only 80lbs I believe in 8th grade even, which I was smaller like not 5 feet yet, but my point is, I never was fat. I was a nerd because I made perfect attendance a bunch of years, didn't get detentions, made honor roll, etc. I don't want to have people be mean. I am SICK of it! Anything I can do to stop having that happen to me I will. Obviously for you to mention weight, *YOU* must have a weight issue yourself. Are you JEALOUS or something? At almost 37yrs old(still 36yrs old), I have been able to not get fat. I would rather DIE than be fat. That's how much it hurts my feelings if someone would make fun of me with my weight. I remember 2 people at the donut shop/diner when in 2001 I believe that said because I gained from 94lbs to 97lbs they said I gained weight. FOR REAL, THREE FUCKING POUNDS. I STILL am HURT by that and by the JUNIOR HIGH ASSHOLES. I will NEVER get over this, EVER, EVER, EVER! It sticks with me my entire life. You are just a MEAN ASSHOLE LIKE THEY WERE!
"yet all it does is make you irritable and treat people like shit."
I am not irritable and have NEVER ONCE treated ANYONE like shit. I am MUCH NICER than most servers are to us like I even tell them "thank you" even though they never once said they were sorry for their mistakes. I say sorry when I have forgotten to ask for something, WHY can't they?
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